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11-06-2023, 04:34 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,469
M.O.C. #4831
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Quote:
Originally Posted by R.S.O'Donnell
....Still wouldn’t buy another because Keysone/Lippert has known about the frail spring hangars for years and has chosen to ignore the issue....
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I am pretty sure Montana/Lippert finally addressed the spring hanger problem with the 2022 (?) models. Just many years late!
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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11-06-2023, 04:45 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
Posts: 2,377
M.O.C. #30417
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl n Susan
I am pretty sure Montana/Lippert finally addressed the spring hanger problem with the 2022 (?) models. Just many years late!
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Carl you are correct. They have added support gussets. I keep an eye on them and so far all good. 5000ish miles. Here's a pic from a recent post.
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Tony & Donna & the best dog ever, Murphy.
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, Solar Flex 400, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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11-06-2023, 05:57 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: St. Paul
Posts: 68
M.O.C. #32135
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i was just going to say yes but it says we need 6 characters so yes
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11-07-2023, 09:58 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,599
M.O.C. #2283
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I think poor quality is or can be a problem across all manufacturing. You always wont manufacturing to go faster. When it does you make more money. And buyers get brownie points for buying cheaper. They never get a pay raise for spending more money. And we wont a perfect build camper but wont it as cheap as we can get it. So we have a conflict. How much would you spend for better quality?
Lynwood
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11-07-2023, 03:57 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Coloma, Wisconsin
Posts: 202
M.O.C. #28036
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Truthfully, IMO, if they built it noticeable better with quality materials I would be willing to pay more. Remember the old saying " You get what you pay for" and a long with that can be a lot of time & headaches saved with a quality build.
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2019 3121RL 35 ft., 2020 3500 Dodge Ram SRW, Cummins 6.7 HO, Air Bags - Air Lift BT Wireless Compressor, Coloma, Wisconsin
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11-07-2023, 05:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Austin
Posts: 2,480
M.O.C. #21044
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wisconsin Retiree
Truthfully, IMO, if they built it noticeable better with quality materials I would be willing to pay more. Remember the old saying " You get what you pay for" and a long with that can be a lot of time & headaches saved with a quality build.
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If my unit had painted or real wood veneer doors in lieu of the wood-grain paper that peels (3 problem doors - half bath+bedroom+main bath) - my complaints about quality would be satisfied.
Confession/ Clarification - The small list of quality issues for my unit is most likely due to the fact that we have not been living in it full time and have only put maybe 10k-12k miles on it since we bought it January 2018. I know my day will come when we use it more after I retire. I read this forum to get a free education on the things that will likely go wrong and at least I will know which way to turn the bolt or the screw.
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2019 Chevy 3500 High Country DRW
2018 Montana 3921FB
Aussie Gus + Texas Heeler Jimmy
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11-07-2023, 06:31 PM
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#47
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
Posts: 2,377
M.O.C. #30417
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikendebbie
If my unit had painted or real wood veneer doors in lieu of the wood-grain paper that peels (3 problem doors - half bath+bedroom+main bath) - my complaints about quality would be satisfied.
Confession/ Clarification - The small list of quality issues for my unit is most likely due to the fact that we have not been living in it full time and have only put maybe 10k-12k miles on it since we bought it January 2018. I know my day will come when we use it more after I retire. I read this forum to get a free education on the things that will likely go wrong and at least I will know which way to turn the bolt or the screw.
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Righty tighty lefty loosey
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Tony & Donna & the best dog ever, Murphy.
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, Solar Flex 400, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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11-08-2023, 05:24 AM
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#48
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2023
Location: houston
Posts: 14
M.O.C. #33123
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Foldbak
You have a 2019...covid build! They had a lot of problems during covid.
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Covid was 2020…a 2019 most likely built in late 2018
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11-08-2023, 08:12 AM
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#49
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
Posts: 2,377
M.O.C. #30417
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubio171
Covid was 2020…a 2019 most likely built in late 2018
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Thanks for correcting me! January 20th 2020 the feds announced COVID... So maybe he got a late Friday or early Monday build....
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Tony & Donna & the best dog ever, Murphy.
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, Solar Flex 400, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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11-08-2023, 01:09 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Hanover
Posts: 1,472
M.O.C. #13325
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Don't know. While ours was 3 years used and had whatever big bugs worked out, I've seen too many quality issues with newer ones. That said, EVERY brand has the same problem. I'd have to very closely inspect anything before buying - and the problem is that dealers don't want to put water in them or let you power things on to let you check out the important stuff. Guess that leaves me with private owner used vs. new, which is fine by me. (just noticed my map - we did the SE with a bumper pull before getting our Monty.)
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11-08-2023, 01:11 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Granbury
Posts: 76
M.O.C. #25118
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Would I buy?
If they built cars like they. Build RVs the auto industry would go bankrupt The junk they put out is atrocious and Montana is on the top of the list. I hate government Intervention but in this case there needs to be some standards that should be met. It’s like a bunch of drunks build these things.
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11-08-2023, 01:33 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2023
Location: Washington
Posts: 5
M.O.C. #33222
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Originally Posted by 432bartman
I'm questioning how much longer we will keep my 2019. For those of you who have purchased newer rigs, how has the quality been? Are you still happy? Would you buy another one? I recently had the opportunity to check out the new Brinkley line of trailers at our local Mike Thompson RV center, who carries Montana's, Solitudes, and everything else. The Brinkley is a fresh company, the owners use to own Grand Design, sold it, and ventured off to start this new company, with an emphasis on quality and customer service. I was very impressed with the Brinkley as one of Brinkley's own reps was there to explain their company, construction and quality of their trailers.
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I have a 2020 Montana Legacy by Keystone. I would never buy anything Keystone builds. Terible customer service and Camping world is terible. They kept it 5 months out of first 13 I owned it. Seem everything is very poor quality.
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11-08-2023, 01:36 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2023
Location: Washington
Posts: 5
M.O.C. #33222
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agree my 2020 hs been trrrible one thing after another.
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11-08-2023, 01:40 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2023
Location: Washington
Posts: 5
M.O.C. #33222
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Horace
I recently pulled part of undercarrige cover down. What a tangled mess with ewires in piles just thrown in. Keyston has very poor manuals also..
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11-08-2023, 01:51 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Oct 2023
Location: Cookeville
Posts: 4
M.O.C. #33488
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2019 Montana 3121RL
I have had minor issues with little things of purchased hardware. Shower door handles fall off, closet door fall off roller with stripped thread, main entrance door hard to close, weatherproof rubber edging on cargo doors become unattached.
As one can see, they are all minor. Love the Floorplan, love the bed, love the shower, love how it pulls. Love the refrigerator and ice maker.
I would buy another.
Bill
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11-08-2023, 02:00 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Oct 2023
Location: Delhi
Posts: 1
M.O.C. #33494
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I agree fully. All the new builds have an emphasis on weight. I like all the modern look, but I'll stick with 2013 3750FL.
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11-08-2023, 02:40 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Albany
Posts: 408
M.O.C. #11972
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I know your question asked about newer rigs but I wanted to comment. Our Monty has given us excellent service and now has 100,000 miles on it. Some of the features on newer models (disk brakes, full body paint for starters) would be nice but not enough to push me over the edge to buy again. The disks can be done as a retrofit. The paint could too but that would be more costly than getting that option from the factory. Yes, we've had a couple minor problems - the rear window lost its seal and had to be replaced and at about 90,000 miles one of the leaf springs broke. All four springs were upgraded from 3,000 to 3,500 lb ones at the time of repair. Bad tire wear forced me to get an axle alignment but no trouble with that since. In my view, these are minor problems for the use we have gotten out of our Monty and I would definitely consider buying another one.
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2012 3150RL. G614 tires. Hardwired surge protector. Level-Up Hydraulic leveling.
2013 F-350 Lariat 6.7 PSD SRW SC LB 4X4 OEM hitch, air self-leveling on rear. 57-gallon replacement fuel tank. DieselSite water separator/fuel filter.
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11-08-2023, 03:00 PM
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#58
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Established Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 17
M.O.C. #21390
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They would need to make big improvements for me to choose another Montana. Brinkley is on my list or a diesel pusher for my next unit.
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11-08-2023, 03:00 PM
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#59
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Monument
Posts: 100
M.O.C. #24683
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Quote:
Originally Posted by raygreg
I love the floorplan on my Montana, but it is not built very well. I think it is a piece of junk.
I would not buy another one.
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Ditto. My neighbors joke that I spend far more time fixing it than camping in it. They’re right. Love the 2019 330RL floor plan, but pretty much everything about it is junk. I had a wonderful Newmar towable in the ‘90’s, five busy camping years and not one tiny problem— sold it after five years for almost what I paid for it.
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11-08-2023, 03:18 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Hollister
Posts: 6
M.O.C. #22151
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Sorry to say I wouldn’t own another keystone product. Their floor plans are great but the quality is just terrible. Customer service has been hit or miss. Mostly miss. The final straw was when they had me repair my slide roof after the slide gear box leaked oil on it. The leak was a known problem. The repair came apart after a couple years and I was told the repair warranty was only for one year! Frustrating when the only problem with the roof was their fault
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