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12-28-2019, 09:01 PM
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Established Member
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Location: Byromville
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Is it OK to purchase a full-timer's rig?
Hi everyone! You all have been so very helpful!! I am so grateful!!
I have now found a 2009 3400RL that has been full-timed in, for 4 years.
I wonder if it's wise to purchase a rig that has had so much use? I wonder if full-timing causes unusual wear and tear that it will shorten its life-span?
Most likely, the carpet will need to be replaced. And the range looked in pretty rough shape. But, I have not seen it yet...it's 5 hours away, and would love to know if I should even consider one that has been used full-time.
Thanks again, for all your help!
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12-28-2019, 09:57 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bee Branch
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Full timing does put a LOT of extra wear and tear on the interior of a coach for certain. One thing you will likely find out about changing the carpet is its a LOT of work. We are replacing our carpet right now and there are about a million staples!! Real pain in the backside and knees!! Everything on the interior is going to get a real workout. Bathrooms in particular can become rough really quick with the cheap showers and fixtures. Constantly being damp is very hard RV bathrooms.
Generally the exterior condition has more to do with the location of the unit and if it is under a cover more than anything.
The running gear and frame condition will depend on how much traveling was involved. Some full timers travel weekly, some stay in one spot.
On the other hand, some full timers are really good about maintaining their rigs. After all it is their primary residence. It is far easier to justify maintaining a rig and adding extras if your living in it full time. Prime example is us replacing the carpet on our rig which is just two years old (we have only been full time in it for a year). And we are using higher grade materials for the new flooring. If we hadn't been pushed to full time due to my work we would most likely never have replaced the flooring. Likewise we will be adding a third AC and other extras.
So sometimes you can actually get a much better unit from a full timer. But it is a case by case basis and I would be willing to bet that poor vs good is going to be lopsided to the bad side overall particularly on the lower priced units.
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Bee Branch, AR.
2017 Ram 1 ton diesel duallyCrew Cab/Long Bed
2018 Montana High Country 381TH Garage Full of Toys
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12-28-2019, 10:06 PM
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Thank you! She said that her husband is an electrician, so he stayed on top of things.
She said that they traveled a lot and saw the country, and now, it's time to settle back down, so they built a house.
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12-28-2019, 10:12 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Arlington
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I agree it's a case by case scenario. Whomever purchases our rig will get a rig with all the suspect Keystone supplier parts replaced with much higher grade equipment. We do the preventive maintenance, we perform repairs promptly and we clean on an OCD level. We have been discussing an "upgrade" for some time but seem to come back to the devil you know outcome.
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12-28-2019, 10:48 PM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Narnia
Thank you! She said that her husband is an electrician, so he stayed on top of things.
She said that they traveled a lot and saw the country, and now, it's time to settle back down, so they built a house.
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Just about every seller is going to give you that story. You have to learn to judge for yourself. Don't rush things and not trying to sound ugly but don't just take peoples word. Take your time, learn the market and RVs in general. Ask a thousand questions. In other words do your research.
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Bee Branch, AR.
2017 Ram 1 ton diesel duallyCrew Cab/Long Bed
2018 Montana High Country 381TH Garage Full of Toys
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12-28-2019, 10:51 PM
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Montana Fan
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Location: Charleston
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No way would I buy a rig that had been full timed for any length of time.
Tons of excessive interior wear and tear on those units. That's what you
can see. Imagine the wear on the parts you can't see.... Not for me.
We looked at several trade ins last year when shopping for our new 5er.
I could tell the full-timed units within 30 seconds of walking through the door.
Tons of used units out there with very little use. Some a couple years old and only used a few times each year. I would look elsewhere for sure.
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12-28-2019, 10:59 PM
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Montana Master
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Narnia you may also want to consider using a professional inspector. They are not infallible but they have the know how to spot water damage, exterior delamination, and other major items you want to avoid. If you don’t have the experience to spot these items this may be a worthwhile avenue to consider. I would not rule out a rig out of hand because it was used full time.
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12-29-2019, 06:25 AM
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Montana Master
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X2 the Inspector
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12-29-2019, 06:58 AM
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Montana Master
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Location: Hixson
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Creeker
No way would I buy a rig that had been full timed for any length of time.
Tons of excessive interior wear and tear on those units. That's what you
can see. Imagine the wear on the parts you can't see.... Not for me.
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Not always the case. We have been full time over 9 years and take VERY good care of our unit(s). We always remove our shoes at the door where they are stored in a shoe caddy I installed and we NEVER allow smoking or pets in the unit. When there is an issue with something it is repaired by me when possible or if not possible it is taken to a qualified repairman.
We will be giving up the lifestyle in a few days for medical reasons and our current unit will be put on the market. Someone will get a very good & clean Montana at a fair price.
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Full Timers 9/1/2010 through 1/16/2020.
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12-29-2019, 08:37 AM
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Established Member
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Thanks, everyone! We have enough experience shopping RVs to spot delam and know to look for leaks.
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12-29-2019, 08:52 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
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Fulltime rig can be a great buy. We fulltimed for almost seven years, met lots of folks. Most full-timers are handy, maintain their rig with pride (it is their home), have done many upgrades, dumped the OEM furniture, and on that 2009, some appliances may have already been replaced. Professional inspection and price make it a good or bad choice.
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