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05-23-2016, 07:08 AM
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Gone Traveling
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Alvin
Posts: 2
M.O.C. #18644
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Kitchen sink leak
Hello my name is Cece and I am married to a wonderful man. My father in law gave us a montana fifth wheel.
Every time I wash dishes in th kitchen sink, the water leaks to the other side of rear tire.
I have the black tank closed and grey tank opened.
I think I have a gally tank. Don't know what it's for.
Do I have a leak in grey tank or a crack in it.
Is it expensive to fix?
Please help.
Cece from Alvin, Tx
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05-23-2016, 07:19 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,361
M.O.C. #6433
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Add your Montana model and year to your profile so we know what you have.
The galley tank is for the kitchen sink. There should be a pull handle some where in front, behind, or possibly between the wheels on the street side. A leak there is not normal. Since it leaks when you use the kitchen sink the leak would be associated with the galley tank. May be a cracked tank or pipe connected to the tank. Is water dripping from the enclosed under belly? Or maybe from the drain pipe under the trailer?
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Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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05-23-2016, 07:40 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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As Bill said, the first thing to do is to find the handle for the galley tank valve. My bet is between the tires as he mentioned. The tank may not be damaged, it just may be full and overflowing. Until you find the valve handle and dump the galley tank, you will not be able to determine if you do have a leak.
Bingo
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Bingo and Cathy - Our adventures begin in the hills of WV. We are blessed by our 2014 3850FL Big Sky (previous 2011 3750FL and 2007 3400RL) that we pull with a 2007 Chevy Silverado Classic DRW CC dually.
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05-23-2016, 11:12 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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On ours it's in front of the front street side tire.
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2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
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05-23-2016, 02:53 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Murrieta
Posts: 5,816
M.O.C. #9257
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If you have never drained your galley tank since you got the trailer (assuming Dad-in-law emptied the tanks before giving you the rig - that was very generous of him), your tank might be leaking where the plumbing connects to the tank and you are finally filling the galley tank (different from the gray tank which is used for the shower/lavatory) and now it's overflowing at the leak.
There will be a lot of labor cost to fix this, because the under-the-rig-cover (if equipped) needs removal and the tank may need to be dropped or the fix may require the repairman to gain access to the top of the tank. Then if the tank is also broken anywhere, there's the cost of a new tank (prices vary). On my '06 Monty the rig has 38 gallon tanks. I'm guessing your rig might have the same tank capacity.
On an unrelated note, I suggest you edit your phone number out of your posts (if that is your phone number). It's just good practice not to ever post your phone number in a public forum!
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05-24-2016, 04:43 AM
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Gone Traveling
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Alvin
Posts: 2
M.O.C. #18644
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1999 montana Tv
Vin no
4yDF33529X4050473
From Cece:
Thank you everybody for your help and advice. I don't know anything about this Montana fifth wheel that my father n law gave us.
When we got it, it had a huge leak, coming from the roof.
All the wirings that plug into electrical outlet pole were all burned out.
I am betting my in laws had a new refrigerator put in.
I was thinking, I be blessed and start using it. WRONG!
Somewhere in fifth wheel was electrical shorts. It was no fun trying to find the electrical
Shorts!
I don't know how to start up my water heater.
I looked under the sink, and it looks new to me.
Could someone tell me if I connected my DC House batteries would my refrig work?
Would my water heater work?
I have my DC batteries disconnected.
I don't know if I can have both working at same time? I mean the DC batteries and electricity running to RV park electrical outlet.
I'm tired of taking a bath in cold water!
I know all the right side of my fifth wheel has to be gutted out and fix.
That will have to wait.
I guess, I will get under the fifth wheel and find my Gally tank, I think, I need to emptied it out. Assuming I find the lever!
Thank you everybody for your advice and God bless everyone one hundred fold.
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05-24-2016, 06:09 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Haysville
Posts: 4,261
M.O.C. #3085
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From the sound of it, I'd question whether a "favor" was done. 1999 was the first year Montana's came out. You have to have 12 VDC power (whether directly from batteries or from your converter) to run most anything as in fridge, furnace, and water heater while on gas. Yes you can have batterie(s) hooked up while on shore power as that's how the converter charges the battery. If your electrical is all burnt up ... you have a job ahead of you to remedy what caused it all.
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05-24-2016, 06:38 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 180
M.O.C. #11886
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Celia
If that is your phone number, it appears you are in the Dallas area?
Since you dont know too much about the gift you received, and you have a lot of questions and much to learn, perhaps there is a MOC member near by that could come by and show you a few things.
60 minutes walking around your rig will teach you as much or more as 6 hours of reading posts on this forum.
Perhaps if you posted the general area where the trailer is located, someone may volunteer. (But not the actual address!)
Good luck, warm baths are in your future!
-Steve
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05-24-2016, 07:33 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,361
M.O.C. #6433
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She stated that she is in Alvn, TX, just south of Houston.
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Bill & Patricia
Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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05-24-2016, 10:08 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Hudson
Posts: 480
M.O.C. #2446
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Galley tank drain valve handle on some models are under the slideout 6 - 12inches behind the drivers side rear Montana tire along the frame rail. Look for the smaller 1.5inch drain line and follow it back to where it disapears up into bottom. Then look along the frame near where the pipe goes up into the underbelly.
The batteries have to be connected for any of the 12V options.
The fridge should work on 12V and propane if the switch is pushed in for the Gas position or 120V if the Gas button is out.
Your hot water heater should be able to run on 12VDC and propane. OR 120V Some have a switch ON/OFF inside the white heater outside cover. On is for 120V and is independent of the 12V propane option.
Keystone standardized a convenience center on newer models.
Finding shorts is no easy task in any RV no matter which brand. Be safe and consult a "knowledgeable" electrician or repair man.
Remember advice is only as good, as the recipient.
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Old 3255RL It is a weekend warrior and less than 15K miles. Mostly sits at the house. Home is where the heart is.
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05-24-2016, 12:54 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Hudson
Posts: 480
M.O.C. #2446
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Also Look at this thread:
http://www.montanaowners.com/forums/...ad.php?t=68610
And if you do a search you will find many topics on this.
When I first got my Montana, I had no clue either. No one informed me. I was at a campground and asked around. Wasn't till I found another Montana owner gave me the advice.
I HOPE all is well!
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Chris Donna and Oliver the rescue Dog.
Old 3255RL It is a weekend warrior and less than 15K miles. Mostly sits at the house. Home is where the heart is.
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