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07-22-2015, 11:38 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Kent
Posts: 295
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Tires replaced after just 2 years
I just had a tire break down and blow out yesterday Could have been a dangerous situation. Took 2014 Mountaineer to Les Schwab and they say all 4 need replacing. Now I keep the proper inflation on this 2yr old Montana and we are pretty much just weekend travelers. I'M pretty discussed that I'm out $800 after just 2 years use and maybe 10,000 miles. We store it uncover but they told us not to allow tires to sit on cement in the winter months even though we use it a weekend or two during the mild northwest winters. Probably don't have a leg to stand on with dealer (Tacoma RV) but wife is giving it a gallery effort
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07-22-2015, 12:21 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
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Marathons?? My '07 came with Missions. I ran them 1 year. But with all the reported blowouts on Missons I replaced them at 1 year and less than 4,000 miles and no blowouts just to give some peace of mind.
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07-22-2015, 12:32 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
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Curious why they said all four tires needed replacing?
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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07-22-2015, 12:41 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Sioux Falls
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Curious how you got 4 tires for $800.00.
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07-22-2015, 01:19 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
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My thoughts also. Original equipment tires? If so you got longer use than many. $800, replaced with the same quality tires?
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2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
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07-22-2015, 01:20 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by shovelhead86
Curious how you got 4 tires for $800.00.
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It's actually not a problem getting a good set of LTs installed for that price. Not everyone feels a need for 614s on their particular model...me included.
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07-22-2015, 01:36 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Hagerstown
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by WeBeFulltime
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quote:Originally posted by shovelhead86
Curious how you got 4 tires for $800.00.
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It's actually not a problem getting a good set of LTs installed for that price. Not everyone feels a need for 614s on their particular model...me included.
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Just out of curiosity how close are you to the maximum weight of the LT tires and what brand did you decide on.
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F350 Ford Dually 4:10`s w/bags (payload 5595 lbs) Sumo Springs 63 gal aux tank
Reese Goosebox Mor/Ryde SRE 4000 X Factors Monroe shocks.... real smooth ride
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07-22-2015, 02:41 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
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Have run Firestone Transforce LT tires for many years without a single issue. Online price 155-170 per tire.
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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07-22-2015, 03:44 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Kent
Posts: 295
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Would it help to lower the back legs when in storage to relieve some of the weight inpact?
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07-22-2015, 03:53 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
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If your tires were Marathons, the only thing that would have helped was to have replaced them like most on the forum.
Bingo
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07-22-2015, 07:37 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Bridgewater
Posts: 1,196
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2 years? Maybe 10,000 miles? If they were Marathons, you may want to call Guinness World Records.
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07-23-2015, 01:06 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Hanover
Posts: 1,473
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jaybird, first off, you don't say what brand and age they were. Even if OEM, they probably were at minimum another year older than your rig.
Second, it shouldn't matter one bit that you kept your rig on cement over the winter. This 'tire salesman myth' has been proven false several times over (unless they were made 80 years ago). Whoever told you that was just trying to sell four instead of one.
Finally, you don't say what they sold you for $800. Did you even check the DOT 'born on' dates?
There are hundreds of posts about tires on this Forum and just about every other one I've seen pertaining to 5th wheel trailers. They all pretty much say the same things: Made in China ST tires are junk for heavy weight trailers. ALWAYS check the date codes and don't trust tires over five years old. Good ST and good LT tires work equally well if you pay attention to ratings and age.
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07-23-2015, 02:16 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
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M.O.C. #11397
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Brian Holmes
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quote:Originally posted by WeBeFulltime
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quote:Originally posted by shovelhead86
Curious how you got 4 tires for $800.00.
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It's actually not a problem getting a good set of LTs installed for that price. Not everyone feels a need for 614s on their particular model...me included.
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Just out of curiosity how close are you to the maximum weight of the LT tires and what brand did you decide on.
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I have Michelins that are rated at just over 12,000 for the 4 tires. My 3585 scales at just under 11,000 on the two axles.
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07-23-2015, 03:52 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Depends on temps
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We tell folks to replace the (insert ST tire brand here) and install either a "quality" LT tire or if your actual axle weight is over a LT tire rating go on to a "G" rated tire.
Then a fella with 10K miles in 2 years, (that is a lot of trips to the lake) has a blowout???? and he is ****** at the tire. Dugh??
Had he removed the OEM ST tires when new, he could have sold them for $3-400 and bought some decent tires.
When I got my trailer home from the dealership, went on one 200 mile round trip camping, installed a set of Duravis R250 for $900. Sold the OEM Marathon's on Craig's List for $350.
As to the not parking on concrete, Yea, got to rotate my tires every month to keep the oil from settling in the bottom of the tire...I'll work on that.
Jim
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07-23-2015, 04:28 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Port Orchard
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How is it Tacoma RV's problem that the cheep tires Keystone put on your rig didn't last per your expectation? Give Keystone a call and see what they will do for you. But as jlb27537 said, had you replaced them when new you could have sold them to help offset the cost of new LT tires. ST tires have been a known issue that has been talked about on this and many other forums for years.
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07-23-2015, 05:21 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Kent
Posts: 295
M.O.C. #6300
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They were Marathon
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07-23-2015, 05:30 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
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we had a good set of LT tires on our 06 3400.They were Generals not made in China. The tire load rating was as I remember 3083 per tire or 6166 per 7K axle or 12,322 on both. Our pin weight was 2800 lbs. When weighed at a fall rally we were a bit over the load rating on the galley side. GVW was as I recall 15K and we were at the rally when weighed a bit over. We were right at the bitter edge of the tire rating but had the TMPS and drove at 62/65 MPH.we did not have a problem with those tires however with the 13 3402 Big sky with a higher GVW the G6 14s were a requirement.
Also on the 06 3400 we ditched the OEM suspension which included the axles for the Mor Ryde IS.
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07-23-2015, 06:35 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Washington Coast
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Yep I agree with Fire5er,I like Tacoma RV and have dealt with them for many years but I do not see this as their problem it is Keystone ,but what the heck can't hurt in trying,when I bought my 2015 there I told them to take off that ST junk and put the G's on they said no problem they hear about it all the time and they took care of it unfortunately some buyers of these big new rigs do not know about the ST E rated tire problems or just take their chances if they do know
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07-23-2015, 09:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
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Jay I'm surprised. You are one of the most active members here and you were still using the Marathon tires.
Lynwood
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07-23-2015, 11:34 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
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M.O.C. #2839
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mlh..You may be thinking of Jay Bird... not Jaybird.
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