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07-16-2012, 06:12 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: La Center
Posts: 107
M.O.C. #12628
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Mor/Ryde Pin Box
Just purchased a new 2012 Mountaineer 326 that didn't come with the Mor/Ryde Pin Box. This is my first experience with pulling a 5th wheel and IM not liking the chucking / bucking whatever you call it. Before I drop about 750 bucks on a Mor/Ryde Pin Box is this the best box out there? Thanks
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07-16-2012, 06:20 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Placerville
Posts: 357
M.O.C. #8962
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The Mor/Ryde is the best for the money, you can spend thousands for one better, we like our Mor/Ryde, no real complaints, we do get the banging around some when the road is just right with up and downs, and temps are cool
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07-16-2012, 07:22 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Washington Coast
Posts: 2,688
M.O.C. #10696
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this is the first time we have had a mor-ryde on our 5th and although it helps and I can feel the difference I was expecting more it still bucks and jerks some, maybe I was expecting it to totally stop but all and all it does help maybe somebody out there has another brand and give feedback I would like to hear it too
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07-17-2012, 01:49 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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MorRyde works pretty good for us. There are a couple of other brands out there, which include a shock absorber and rubber bushings, but higher $$$. Don't know the specifics on any performance differences.
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07-17-2012, 02:07 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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I'm sure the "air ride" folks will be along soon. We like the MorRyde, but like anything else you get what you pay for. You can get both pin boxes and hitches that will lessen the chucking even more than the MorRyde, but you will pay for it.
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07-17-2012, 02:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Galena
Posts: 990
M.O.C. #7380
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We found ours used for $200.00.
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07-17-2012, 10:24 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Wheatland
Posts: 675
M.O.C. #10623
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We bought ours a little over a year ago and installed it ourselves. You just need a torque wrench and the right size socket and wrench. This plce sells them shipped to your door for $538. http://radauto.com/shop/pin-boxes/mo...x/prod_40.html You just need to know what number and brand pin box you have now.
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07-17-2012, 11:48 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ft. Smith
Posts: 981
M.O.C. #116
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You may want to consider this; a Mor-ride is essentially a thick rubber pad bonded between two plates. It primarily moderates horizontal movement. The air ride pinbox designs convert horizontal movement to a vertical [more or less] movement, they also moderate bounce at the same time.
When the rigs tires encounter a hole or bump, the directional movement is momentarily halted or slowed causing an initial tug or jerk on the hitch pin. When it exits the initial obstacle, it 'catches up' causing a sudden push. The obstacle also causes the rv to bounce which is also transmitted to the pin/hitch assembly. In addition, consider the truck is also doing the same thing at a different frequency. So probably the 'best' solution is one that isolates the TV from the RV, and moderates both the back and forth jerking and bounce of the RV. I would guess that a TV air hitch is the on that accomplishes this better than most other solutions with a air pin pox running a relatively close second then the Mor/Ride. The problem is what you are willing to pay vs what your willing to put up with.
So, bottom line, the Mor/Ride is not, necessarily, the 'best' out their.
No, I don't have an air hitch, too expensive.
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07-17-2012, 12:28 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: East Moriches
Posts: 418
M.O.C. #6436
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Had a 5th airborne on our 06 3500rl. Have a mor-ride on our 09 3400rl. I prefer the 5th airborne. The ride was smoother.
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07-17-2012, 12:49 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Casa Grande
Posts: 5,369
M.O.C. #6333
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As I have mentioned many times before, if you can afford the Mor-Ryde hitch pin AND the Trailer-Saver Hitch for your TV, you will have almost the best combination available. NOW, IF, you add the Mor-Ryde Independent Supension, including disc brakes, you WILL have the best running combination available, HOWEVER, it will cost you some BIG $$$$$$$'s for all three. We fulltimed to 45 states in 4 years with this combination and nary a problem with any of it. Never any damage to the trailer truck or occupants, including the cat that always rode in the trailer......This is IMHO......
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07-17-2012, 02:53 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Indian Land
Posts: 1,142
M.O.C. #9808
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We started with stock pin box, added Firestone airbags to truck springs, which really helped on dips before and after some overpasses. We then added the Mor-Ryde pin box which helped with the jerkiness.
Tweety's has pin boxes with free shipping http://tweetys.com/morryde-fifth-wheel-pin-box.aspx
Make sure you get the model number off of your current pin box, I called Keystone, and they gave me the wrong info, it cost me $180 to ship wrong one back.
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07-17-2012, 04:26 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: La Center
Posts: 107
M.O.C. #12628
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Very good feedback and thank you, looking for some air-ride feedback as I haven't ordered the Mor/Ryde. The dealer that sold us our Montana will let me have a Mor/Ryde at their cost but I have to fork out the installation cost. I noticed that pratcically every one of the new Montana units on their lot have the Mor/Ryde Hitch Pin Box. Obviously Mor/Ryde and Keystone have working relationship.
If anyone has traveled interstate 90 east from the Idaho state line to St. Regis Montana with a Mor/Ryde Pin Box within the last three years they should chime in as how it performs. That has to be the worse highway in the northwest.
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07-17-2012, 06:18 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Copperas Cove
Posts: 1,426
M.O.C. #12096
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I don't think there is a state out there now that does not have some really crappy Interstates. Texas around Dallas it terrible, going thru Ark. was really bad, Ky was disgusting, watch out for their bridges, and the Northeast,,,, well it has always sucked. But it just seems the hwys are really headed down hill bad. But we don't have a air hitch or Mor/Ryde and really don't have a problem towing. We don't really get a lot of chucking. I imagine a Mor/Ryde may help on some of the rougher roads but I am gonna install the EZ Flex suspension first and maybe some where down the road look for a Mor/Ryde, it's lower on my priorities because my ride isn't that bad.
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07-17-2012, 08:06 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Ridgecrest
Posts: 39
M.O.C. #8969
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For those considering purchase of, and those already with the MorRyde Rubber Pin Box. I bought one last year just before a 1000+ mile trip hoping it would remove chucking and provide some relief. I was not quite sure, as others are, that it was helping. I saw what appeared to be spots where sliding parts seemd to be hitting stationary parts. When I called MorRyde and explained my concerns I was asked to send in some digital pictures. They agreed that the rubber spring, while correctly matched for my 5er weight, it was not doing the job. They immediately shipped me a spring for a heavier rig and asked me to try it. That new spring helped quite a bit, but the system does not completely remove all chucking. Some of you may be experiencing a similar phenomenon.
Regarding the up and down movement. I have air springs that I had previously added so I have convinced myself that I now have accomodated dampening in all axes; up/down, side/side and front to back. But even today, I experience an occasional "chuck." If you buy my logic, then the Mor Ryde Pin Box is a cost effective purchase as others have implied.
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07-17-2012, 09:27 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 1,284
M.O.C. #11675
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If our Montana did not come with the MorRyde I would have definitely gone with an air pin like the Trailair Tri-Glide Air Ride King Pin or the Airborne. We are getting chucking with our MorRyde, and I'm sure with any pin, but like the idea of the mechanics of the air pin boxes.
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07-18-2012, 01:57 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Norman
Posts: 76
M.O.C. #10075
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2011 Mountaineer's didn't have the Morryde standard so we decided to just try the standard pin box. So far no annoying chucking we not already use to anyways. Maybe in the future I'll try the Airborne/Sidewinder thats out there. I kinda like that technology.
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07-18-2012, 03:57 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Wooster
Posts: 5
M.O.C. #12032
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We have a 2012 Montana 3100rl with the Mor-Ryde pin box and the Trailsaver BD3 hitch. This combination is about as smooth a ride as one could ever experience pulling a 5th wheel. We love the combination and could not be happier.
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07-18-2012, 04:34 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Shore
Posts: 6,009
M.O.C. #7110
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I can’t quite put my finger on it but I haven’t experienced any chucking for a long time. When I first brought a Montana home I wondered what the jerking was on the first trip. I’ve noticed it a few times since then and now virtually none at all that’s noticeable. Anyway, I said all of that to say this. I don’t have any kind of absorption hitch on our camper and never have had one. Perhaps it’s a combination of things, anybody got a clue as to what really causes it?
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07-19-2012, 03:33 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Redding
Posts: 1,421
M.O.C. #12339
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Like the rest we have a Mor Ryde and using a Curt Q24 hitch. I can tell you that the combination works great. It's simple to use, easy on and off. Little if any chucking. Was told the Curt with its four way movement adds to comfort. I am a believer in this combo. I did not ave to run air to it or deal with any aspects of airing up the system. I like to KISS everything ! Lol
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07-20-2012, 05:52 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: La Center
Posts: 107
M.O.C. #12628
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Im going to go with the Mor/Ryde it has to be an improvement over the OEM hitch pin box. I'll reply to post soon. Thanks for the feedback.
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