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11-15-2008, 02:08 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Olahoma City
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Ok all you other farm guys...Help!
I am thinking of replacing my pickups dually bed with a flatbed. I need to be able to haul more than one bale of hay in one trip. So have any of you farm guys went for a flat utility bed on your truck? If so which one?
I don't have to worry about the trailer hitch because I have the B&W gooseneck and Companion Hitch.
Thanks in Advance!
Phil
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11-15-2008, 02:12 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: New Bern
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I suggest you check with your DMV with reference to licensing. My brother-in-law had a flat bed on his and had to register it as commercial and more cost. This was in N.Y.
Good luck.
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11-15-2008, 02:32 PM
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Site Team
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Phil-- Check on line for Omaha Standard truck beds! They were made here in Omaha but now are made and installed in Council Bluffs, IA just across the river. Check with them! They make a really good truck bed!
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11-15-2008, 02:52 PM
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Montana Master
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Right there in your own state Phil.
Bramco Inc in Fairview OK. I use them, sell them, install them, and wouldn't even consider another brand. You can get them in several styles, with multiple options, and price ranges. They will also install them while you wait, if you don't mind waiting about 1/2 day. Farm use requires no commercial registration in Oklahoma.
www.bramcoinc.com
Talk to Bill, he's the owner and most knowledgable, but if he's not there Gary can answer your questions too. They are very nice people, and very easy to deal with. Tell 'em Lonnie at Tire Country sent you, it may or may not get you a better deal .
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11-15-2008, 03:57 PM
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Montana Master
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We use a 5th wheel flat deck trailer, ours is 24', but you can pick the size that suits your needs. We usually haul 11 bales at a time. Whenever we change the TV we don't have to change out the flat deck box just switch over the hitch which we have to do for the Monty anyway.
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11-16-2008, 05:09 AM
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Montana Fan
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They are not cheap, but DoEaze (Sic) makes hydraulic units that will load, unload, and unroll two bales (carry two-at a-time, work one-at-a-time). They are fairly common here in western Missouri and well thought of. Bob
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11-16-2008, 05:40 AM
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Montana Master
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11-19-2008, 03:47 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Olahoma City
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I am thinking of a "dew eze" bed. I would like to purchase one from the company you suggested Lonnie because they are just an hour from me and I like to support our local business in North Western Oklahoma. Unfortunately they only offer a bale spike.
Maybe I can convince dad to get rid of the cattle in a month or so and I won't have to worry about this situation any more.
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11-20-2008, 01:41 AM
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Montana Master
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Not having our horses anymore and not having bought any hay in quite some time, I am curious>
Just how big are these bales???
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11-20-2008, 04:10 AM
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Montana Master
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I use just the regular round Bermuda round bales. Most of mine are the same size as a round bale in 1980. I am too low tech to have a new large square baler. I did chuckle last week when I stopped at the feed store and they had a "new" size round bale which is half the size of a regular round bale for the price of a regular. Remember when farming was simple? I miss those days. To answer your question they are probably 800 pounds each. I did buy some last year that were around 1200 pounds.
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11-20-2008, 04:58 AM
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Montana Master
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Each year we have to purchase additional hay on top of what we produce. Two years ago we bought 1200 lb. average bales for $25.00 Canadian, last year we paid $33.00,and this year we just finished paying $38.00. Guess it's time to get sell our small cattle herd (just a hobby?) and spend more time in the Montana!
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11-20-2008, 05:12 AM
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Montana Fan
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To re-visit the dew-eze thing, I have seen them with the un-roller arms. They can be used to lift the first bale and then use the spike to lift the 2nd bale. And for DarMar, I sold out last year. I still have my Vermeer 5400 baler. It does the smaller 5' X 4' bale that averages 900# doing mixed grass. Anybody want a good baler? Bob
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11-20-2008, 09:22 AM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by DarMar
Each year we have to purchase additional hay on top of what we produce. Two years ago we bought 1200 lb. average bales for $25.00 Canadian, last year we paid $33.00,and this year we just finished paying $38.00. Guess it's time to get sell our small cattle herd (just a hobby?) and spend more time in the Montana!
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That's not too bad in my mind. I was paying about $70 (US) a ton back in the 80's. Then we got to load it up in the barn and everyone suddenly got allergic to hay when it was time to load!
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11-20-2008, 10:06 AM
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Site Team
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Ok guys-- Tell me how the flatbed units and the pickup units work to get the first bale onto/into the bed? I don't see any way of those forks going all the way up and flipping the bail back onto the bed! I can see one being carried on the forks which we do with the tractor (if two-- one on front forks and one on rear fork) but no way of getting that first bail up on to the bed. Am I missing something? We (I say we because I help my brother out) put up about 450-500 acres of hay and we use the forks on the tractors and a self loading bail loader pulled behind the tractor to move most of ours off the fields. Our bales are both alfalfa and natural prairie hay and the bales weigh from 1500 to 1800 lb most of the time. They are the large rounds also. What am I missing on these flatbed units with the forks?
Phil-- It might be cheaper for you to purchase a bail trailer if you already own the tractor w/ forks to load and download the bales. My brother has the self loader and also a tow behind trailer that holds 6 bales. The self loader has to have the tractor because of the hydraulics but the other tow behind doesn't and he tows it with his pickup. I happen to know a guy that might make you a really good deal on one if you ask him right! Or he might even be able to find you one since he works as a salesman for an implement dealer here! Let me know if you are interested in either! Nothing goes into my pocket-- just trying to help out a fellow MOCr and fellow farm boy!! You can PM me or email me if you like instead of putting it on this thread!
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11-22-2008, 05:00 PM
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Montana Master
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DewEze has a nice promotional video on youtube. It demonstrates how the first bale is lifted with the arms then they back and load the second bale. I was impressed.
Rhondo I have the round bale hay trailer but I am only moving my bales from the edge of the field into the pasture which is about 1/3 of a mile. I can get 6 bales moved in 30 minutes it would just be nice to cut down on time now that the days are so short. The engine in my 4020 threw a rod last month so I am now moving with the old farm truck. I am just thinking ahead in case I end up keeping some of the cattle through the winter.
On another note. I did take the truck to town and weigh today while loaded. My bales are a little over 1200 pounds.
I am going to take a couple of pictures of some other hydraulic lifts I have and see if you have any ideas. My dad had purchased a lot of equipment before he became ill and no longer able to mess around the farm. A whole generation is gone and now I am trying to figure out what to do with some of this stuff. I think I may make a custom bed with some pretty cool stuff. He had a flat bed on one of the old late 70's chevy trucks which I can make soem fun modifications to.
Thanks for all the responses. Keep them coming!
Phil
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