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04-06-2022, 01:31 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Rochester
Posts: 25
M.O.C. #21544
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New Tow Vehicle
ALL,
I have enjoyed the many insightful posts in this forum over the last several years. I recently upgraded to a new 3121RL and after much internal debate I took her to a CAT Scale because I was worried that I was over my payload on my 2021 Chevy 2500HD. The payload on that truck was 3224 and my pin weight ended up being 3200 - oh boy!!! Before anyone comments that it will tow it - I know it will tow it since I brought it home from the dealership with it and it towed fine. After spending 33 years in the Submarine Force, the term "margin of safety" is deeply ingrained in my mind. I could not in good conscience tow this RV with my current truck, which sucked because I loved it. Anyway, after much research and searching I found the truck I really needed. Picked-up a 2019 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW with only 5K on it and got a smoking deal for my trade-in . New payload on the DRW is 4524 and I feel much safer, which at the end of the day is all that counts. I probably could have gotten away with a 3500 SRW but who knows what the future holds and I did not want to be constrained if we ever wanted to get a larger unit. Thanks again for all the excellent posts and years of wisdom - you all have saved me time and time again!!
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Shaun and Candi
2021 Montana 3121RL
2019 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW
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04-06-2022, 02:35 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Florence
Posts: 963
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Congrats and only you have to be comfortable with the TV you purchase.
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2018 Ram 3500 MegaCab 4x4 Aisin, 4:10 Gears
Titan 50 Gal Tank, Air Lift Wireless Bags
2017 3160 RL
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04-06-2022, 02:59 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,669
M.O.C. #9969
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Congrats on the new Tow, we have a 2018 High Country Dually and have put approx 30K towing heavy and no issues.
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Michelle & Ann
2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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04-06-2022, 03:12 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Granger TX
Posts: 2,596
M.O.C. #21044
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Congrats on the new truck! We have enjoyed our Chevy! and thankyou for your service!
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MikenDebbie Aggie ‘77 in the sticks near Austin TX
2019 Chevy 3500 High Country DRW
2018 Montana 3921FB
Aussie Gus + Texas Heeler Jimmy
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04-06-2022, 04:17 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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That truck fits the bill
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Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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04-06-2022, 04:19 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,670
M.O.C. #2283
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Nice truck.
Enjoy
Lynwood
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04-07-2022, 04:53 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Rochester
Posts: 25
M.O.C. #21544
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Thanks!
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Shaun and Candi
2021 Montana 3121RL
2019 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW
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04-07-2022, 07:46 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: SWFL
Posts: 965
M.O.C. #17801
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Congrats and I'm jealous.
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2016 Montana 3711FL
2005 Ford F350, 6.0 diesel, short bed
Demco Hitchiker Auto Slide hitch
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04-13-2022, 03:34 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Newberg
Posts: 10
M.O.C. #20287
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We have a 2019 LTZ DRW. Awesome truck.
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04-13-2022, 05:50 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,669
M.O.C. #9969
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May be looking at the '24 Silverado refresh, still looking at 500HP 1100 Lbs Torque, but would have to wait at least a year to work out the first year bugs.
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Michelle & Ann
2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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04-13-2022, 09:15 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
Posts: 2,017
M.O.C. #21963
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mhs4771
May be looking at the '24 Silverado refresh, still looking at 500HP 1100 Lbs Torque, but would have to wait at least a year to work out the first year bugs.
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I don't buy the first model year of anything. That's one thing I liked about the ram. The drivetrain is time tested.
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2016 3160, Legacy, Sailuns, Splendide 2100 xc vented, 1 1/2" axle lift blocks, disk brakes. 2014 Ram 3500 SRW SWB 4X4 6.7 Aisin Mega Cab, EBC slotted disks and brakes, Titan fuel tank.
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04-14-2022, 09:05 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Medford
Posts: 498
M.O.C. #18546
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Just so you know, you mentioned a “margin of safety”, well the engineers that determined the load capacity, also applied a generous “margin of safety”. You would have been fine with the “old truck “.
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2016 Montana High Country 310RE
2020 Chevrolet Silverado 3500 HD LT CC 4x4 Duramax
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04-14-2022, 10:37 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: SUN CITY WEST
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M.O.C. #25705
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I’m going to call GM tomorrow and ask them exactly what my “margin of safety” would be on my over weight truck.
First it was just add airbags, maybe a leaf spring, don’t carry any water, don’t go very far and now we can add GM/Ford/Ram “margin of safety”?????
I learn something new everyday.
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2020 294RL
2019 Silverado 3500 Duramax, SRW, CC Reg box
B&W Companion slider hitch
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04-15-2022, 03:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 2,237
M.O.C. #25165
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inspector0128
First it was just add airbags, maybe a leaf spring, don’t carry any water, don’t go very far and now we can add GM/Ford/Ram “margin of safety”?????
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That's funny. I have heard the recommendation to carry a full tank of water to reduce the pin weight since the fresh tank is at the rear of the trailer behind the axles. Not really sure how much difference that would make though.
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Robert & Diana McNeal
2019 Montana Legacy 3791RD 20th Anniversary Edition
2014 F350 4x4 6.7L SRW
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04-15-2022, 07:52 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: POINTBLANK
Posts: 1,916
M.O.C. #19944
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Weights are one aspect but traveling in winds the DRW is much better for traveling.
DRW has it's challenges but even DW can handle it for errands.
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RAM 22' DRW 3500 Crew LB 40 gal reserve tank / RETRAX Bed Cover / 2020 373RD HC / IS / MOPEKA Tank Monitor / Furrion Side&Rear Cameras
Slide Toppers / EMS-HW50C / Sailun 85's
3rd AC / Dometic 320
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04-15-2022, 08:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2020
Location: UPLAND
Posts: 1,283
M.O.C. #26190
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Congrats on the new dually. They really are nice.
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2019 Keystone Montana 3560RL, 2020 Chevy 2500 HD, Firestone airbags, Air Lift wireless compressor, Curt gooseneck, 20K Reese Goosebox, TST-507, USMC combat vet & retired LEO. Robert, Anika, Breanna, Dylan (daughter-in-law Stephanie). & our Great Pyrenees Layla
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04-16-2022, 09:35 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Medford
Posts: 498
M.O.C. #18546
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inspector0128
I’m going to call GM tomorrow and ask them exactly what my “margin of safety” would be on my over weight truck.
First it was just add airbags, maybe a leaf spring, don’t carry any water, don’t go very far and now we can add GM/Ford/Ram “margin of safety”?????
I learn something new everyday.
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Glad you learned something. The OP was concerned because his truck was 24 pounds over its rated capacity. Twenty four pounds. In the engineering world, whether it’s structural engineering, mechanical, or aerospace, a margin of safety is always applied when designing a truck or an airplane or a space vehicle for unknown contingencies. I could go on, but you’ve learned enough for today. The engineers on the forum understand.
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04-16-2022, 10:00 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
Posts: 2,017
M.O.C. #21963
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Our tow vehicles are engineered to perform reliably up to various rated capacities. Beyond those capacities are no guarantees. The space shuttle Challenger was designed to launch down to a certain temperature (capacity). It was decided to launch outside of prescribed parameters.
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2016 3160, Legacy, Sailuns, Splendide 2100 xc vented, 1 1/2" axle lift blocks, disk brakes. 2014 Ram 3500 SRW SWB 4X4 6.7 Aisin Mega Cab, EBC slotted disks and brakes, Titan fuel tank.
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04-17-2022, 09:27 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Mesa az
Posts: 3,038
M.O.C. #5651
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Garvinsd, at least in the past, the chevy's weight limit for the 2500 and 3500 was determined by the springs!!! Only difference per guys that worked for Chevy was one more leaf in the 3500. Brakes the same. Drive train the same. etc etc. My 2012 2500 pretty much doesn't squat at all when I am hooked up and I am probably 200 lb over. I don't worry about it.
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Tom and Gail
2013 Mountaineer 362
2012 Silverado 2500
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05-09-2022, 09:21 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Gardnerville
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