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05-29-2020, 10:38 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2020
Location: UPLAND
Posts: 1,283
M.O.C. #26190
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Class C & M1 for a motorcycle endorsement
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05-30-2020, 06:17 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Arlington
Posts: 136
M.O.C. #21176
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I have a class A CDL with doubles, triples and tanks and motorcycle endorsement. I need the CDL for work but not for the rv.
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2011 Volvo 780 485 HP/1750 TQ 13 Speed 32000 lb ET air ride hitch
2016 Montana 3820FK Legacy package
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05-30-2020, 07:42 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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In Ohio no special class is required for for the RV.
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05-30-2020, 09:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 1,144
M.O.C. #1846
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The issue here in KS is not the RV itself, it is total GVWR. In my case, my 5th wheel has a GVWR of 17,500. My truck's GVWR is 14,000. Therefore I am at 31,500 GVWR. So I fall under the provisions that the RV plus tow vehicle are over 26,000 total GVWR which requires a Non-Commercial Class A license.
There is another provision that says a trailer that exceeds 10,000 GVWR requires a special license, but RV's are exempt from this portion of the rules, at least according to the DMV here. Unfortunately, not the 26,000 GVRW rule
I was not a happy person when I found all this out, especially since I've been told numerous times over the years that I needed nothing different than my Class C license.
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05-30-2020, 02:12 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Waynesville
Posts: 533
M.O.C. #25947
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Hey All,
I have a Class "A" CDL and have all the endorsement's except school & passenger bus. I also have a "M 1" for our bike's. I have all way's had a CDL since my 20's because of work. so I keep it current with my medical now every year. Sofia got here Class "A" non-commercial when we got the 5500 Dodge. She has to do a medical every 4 year's I think.
I ask a CHP friend of mine and he said that most state's will not bother you with a licence even if you needed one. Most of the time when something happen's like a ticket or accident they all way's have the answer that the dealership never told us that we needed to get a CDL for this rig.
In the same turn, I was pulled over one time for speed, when they found out that I was on a CDL they asked for my log book. This guy was trying to be a same ass. When I came back at him with I don;t have a Freight bill because it was not a commercial haul, and I have private coach on the side of my truck, that shut him up quick .
It's just a way for the state to make money.
Charlie
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05-31-2020, 08:19 AM
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#46
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
Posts: 2,017
M.O.C. #21963
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 432bartman
Class C & M1 for a motorcycle endorsement
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If that's a CA license you'll need to add a non commercial class A.
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05-31-2020, 08:05 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Twin Falls, ID
Posts: 211
M.O.C. #20361
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John I have a very similiar rig and I can tell you that the truck and trailer are Perfectly matched! I couldn’t have done it better. I have my CDL, which I got in 1991, and I actually was a trainer for 6 years. Never had to worry about that. Good luck and keep the rubber side down.
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Chica and Baby (the fury kids)
2014 3402rl
2017 Ram 3500 6.7 ctd. 4x4 srw
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05-31-2020, 09:03 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Puyallup
Posts: 512
M.O.C. #12948
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My license since I was 18 has been a Commercial Driver License. it used to be called a Chauffeur License when I got it in Wyoming originally. I don't think I ever saw a Limo there though, but drove lots of big trucks there.
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06-02-2020, 09:35 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Alexandria
Posts: 352
M.O.C. #12394
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Class A CDL for work.
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06-18-2020, 11:10 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: New Port Richey
Posts: 438
M.O.C. #14092
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It's funny, actually it's sad. Here in Florida, if you want to get a job driving a truck with GVW of over 26,000 lbs or articulating trailer you will need to get either a class A or B CDL depending on the truck. To get a CDL it is not cheap. You need to take a class at a certified school, a written test, tests for any endorsement ( air Brakes, Hasmat, etc) plus a road test. You also have to get a medical exam every year and carry your medical certificate with you.
In Florida, I'm guessing because of our large, retired, elderly and snow bird population, RV's are exempt.
So for example if you are a young healthy person who wants to drive a truck for a living you have to go through all this training and testing to get a CDL to drive anything over 26,000 lbs.
But if you are an elderly person with, poor mobility, motor skills, reflexes, eye sight, hearing etc, never drove anything bigger than a car your whole life and you still have a basic drivers license. You can go into any RV dealership and drive out with a 45 Ft class A, diesel pusher RV with no experience or training what so ever...
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06-19-2020, 04:13 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Northville, NY
Posts: 814
M.O.C. #21158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DmaxDually
It's funny, actually it's sad. Here in Florida, if you want to get a job driving a truck with GVW of over 26,000 lbs or articulating trailer you will need to get either a class A or B CDL depending on the truck. To get a CDL it is not cheap. You need to take a class at a certified school, a written test, tests for any endorsement ( air Brakes, Hasmat, etc) plus a road test. You also have to get a medical exam every year and carry your medical certificate with you.
In Florida, I'm guessing because of our large, retired, elderly and snow bird population, RV's are exempt.
So for example if you are a young healthy person who wants to drive a truck for a living you have to go through all this training and testing to get a CDL to drive anything over 26,000 lbs.
But if you are an elderly person with, poor mobility, motor skills, reflexes, eye sight, hearing etc, never drove anything bigger than a car your whole life and you still have a basic drivers license. You can go into any RV dealership and drive out with a 45 Ft class A, diesel pusher RV with no experience or training what so ever...
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I've thought that same thing before and wondered if there shouldn't be some kind of skills exam at least.
I think the key points are the "C" in cdl, and the weight of it all.
My GCVW is under 26000lbs. so even if I was driving commercially I still wouldn't need a cdl. I have seen some huge motorhomes that are pulling trailers two cars stacked up in it that may be pushing that weight over the top, though. Had a young guy on a sit next to us this year with that set up and going full time running his business out of his rig so I suppose that could be called commercial.
I had a cdl for many years. I finally gave it up for two reasons. 1. the cost of the license and physical exam each year. and 2. so my business friends had to stop asking me to help them out with driving. It made it easier to say no.
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2017 Lariat F-350 FX4, CC, SB, 6.7 PSD 4WD
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06-19-2020, 05:22 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: lawrenceville
Posts: 106
M.O.C. #12319
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I think the rv induustry should have a skills test for the large class a motor home to help poeple understand the difference with air brakes and teach basic backing skills I don,t think most poeple buy fifth wheels with out some knowledge of how to pull and back them . Also wih the current virus going around lots of new poeple sre buying RVs it will be interesting in the future if we are able to find spots to stay available just a thought
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06-19-2020, 08:09 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,361
M.O.C. #6433
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DebNJim B
I've thought that same thing before and wondered if there shouldn't be some kind of skills exam at least.
I think the key points are the "C" in cdl, and the weight of it all.
My GCVW is under 26000lbs. so even if I was driving commercially I still wouldn't need a cdl. ................
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The license requirement, at least in Texas, is based on gross vehicle weight RATING (GVWR), not on scaled weight. Scaled weight may be well under 26,000, but if GVWR is over 26,000 then most states require some higher level non-commercial license.
Are you under 26,000 lbs GVWR since the trailer has a GVWR of over 16,000 lbs and the truck from 10,000 to 11,500 GVWR depending on model?
My older, and shorter, 3075RL has a GVWR of 14,260 lbs. Combined with my F350 GVWR of 11,500 lbs, that puts me at 25,760 lbs, just 240 lbs under the limit.
And along that same line of discussion, I would guess virtually every Montana owner over 38' is over the 26,000 lb limit. And I wonder just how many have actually obtained a class A non-commercial license.
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Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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06-19-2020, 09:36 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,669
M.O.C. #2283
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Safety is the issue here. Are we any safer with everyone that pulls a camper having an up weight license? I have never seen any proof that was true. People in Va don’t seem to be involved in any more accidents than anybody else. I see no real valid reason to give up another freedom.
Lynwood
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06-19-2020, 11:13 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,361
M.O.C. #6433
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Everyone has to take a written test and driving test to obtain the right (privilege?) to drive a "normal" size vehicle. And to show that they at least have some knowledge of what is required to safely control that vehicle. It only stands to reason that you would need additional testing to give you the right to operate a much larger heavier vehicle or combination of vehicles. Does testing inherently make a person a safer driver? No. But I think even a poor driver who has shown he/she knows enough to pass the testing requirements will be better than a poor driver who knows nothing about, or could not pass, those requirements. I don't see that as a freedom, but as an earned privilege.
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Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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06-19-2020, 11:14 AM
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#56
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Blossvale
Posts: 59
M.O.C. #20684
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I have a CDL B with DOT Medical Card.
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06-19-2020, 01:24 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Cuyahoga Falls
Posts: 721
M.O.C. #18572
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26001 lbs, single or combined gross weight, is the tipping point for CDL requirements. My truck GVWR is 14000 lbs, my RV GVWR is 16960 lbs. Combined that is 30960 lbs. Guess I need a CDL. Or do I ? Here In Ohio, RV’s are exempt from CDL requirements. So, even though all you have ever driven your entire life is a Honda Civic, you can go out and buy an F550 and a 45 ft Mobile Estates Rv and drive away with no training or testing, other than what was required to drive your Honda 30 years ago.
Next time you’re cruising down the highway and come across an RV with an Ohio plate, be careful, it might be me, 58 ft of unskilled rolling trouble.
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06-19-2020, 02:20 PM
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#58
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,361
M.O.C. #6433
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In Texas with a 26,001 lb RV you don’t need a CDL. But you do need a class A non-CDL which requires additional written test plus driving test with the RV.
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Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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06-19-2020, 02:29 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 1,144
M.O.C. #1846
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Same in KS - 26001 lbs GCWR (gross combined weight rating) and you need a Class A non-commercial license. At 10,001 GVRW for the RV itself, you also need one. Not a CDL - a non-commercial class A.
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06-19-2020, 02:39 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Oro Valley
Posts: 4,083
M.O.C. #20477
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The best government is the least government.
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2018 3160RL
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