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10-27-2019, 02:30 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Dallas
Posts: 15
M.O.C. #21473
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We have a Pull Rite Super Glide hitch on our F350 Crew Cab short bed and have never had a problem. They are spendy but worth it even if it saves you once.
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10-27-2019, 04:30 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: LAS CRUCES
Posts: 5
M.O.C. #22669
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We too have a 321 HC, I would support the folks with shortbeds plus Andersen Hitch (essentially a goose neck connection elevated and centered back enough in bed to prevent your issue). We pull with a 2018 2500 Turbo Cummins Bighorn Ram 4x4 SRW. Have needed 4x4 twice which has made it worthwhile. Sorry about your damage and good luck on your search. Just finished cross country move with Montana 321 HC and was a breeze to pull vs our old 5th wheel and enjoyed almost 3 mos. steady use til found new home.
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10-27-2019, 04:33 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Lodi
Posts: 19
M.O.C. #24824
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Maybe consider using an automatic sliding hitch. I have a similar vehicle and trailer. I use Pullrite SuperGlide automatic slider. I have had zero issues with the hitch. It is pricey, but I don’t worry about trailer/cab interference. Just keep the sliding rails lubed with an occasional shot of WD-40.
2012 Silverado 2500HD Duramax
2011 Montana Mountaineer 326RLT
4400 series SuperGlide with Super Rail CBT
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10-27-2019, 04:50 PM
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#44
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Established Member
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Columbia
Posts: 42
M.O.C. #23495
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Demco Autoslide
We pull our 5er with a Ford F-250 Superduty Crewcab, I believe the bed is 6ft 3 inches. We went with a Demco Autoslide Hijacker, 18,000 lbs. We have been very pleased with it. The reason we chose this model is we saw our neighbor turn his 5th wheel using his rear window for leverage. Pow,
enough said.
Jim&Celia
Hooch on Wheels
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10-27-2019, 04:56 PM
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#45
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Ogden
Posts: 638
M.O.C. #13862
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beeje
Why anyone would want 3/4 of a truck bed in beyond me. Does 20-24" really make that much difference.?
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I feel that way about a long bed. Yes, in my mind, it (the extra length) makes ALL the difference. For 6 years now, I've proved it makes no difference, EXCEPT for the difference in looks. I pulled a full size Montana and and arrived every single place I set out to arrive, in one piece, with my back window and cab intact and backed in right next to the 8'ft bed pickups. Big difference though, I can park the SB Ram inside the garage all year! I a long bed would have to live outside in the sun and snow.
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10-27-2019, 04:56 PM
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#46
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Folsom
Posts: 63
M.O.C. #19613
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I have the CCSB. Went from a Pullrite Slider on 2500, to an Andersen on the 3500. Live in a small cul-de-sac and make the U turn without any problems. My wife or myself watch tight turns buts our 5er turns in behind the cab. Been great so far.
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Mike and Shari
2018 Montana Legacy 3160RL
2017 GMC Sierra 3500 Denali Duramax, CC, 4x4
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10-27-2019, 05:01 PM
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#47
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Ogden
Posts: 638
M.O.C. #13862
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Give it a minute or two.
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10-27-2019, 05:39 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Macomb
Posts: 8
M.O.C. #20720
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I have a Demco 24k auto slide and it works like a gem.
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10-27-2019, 05:54 PM
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#49
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,325
M.O.C. #17894
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark N.
I feel that way about a long bed. Yes, in my mind, it (the extra length) makes ALL the difference. For 6 years now, I've proved it makes no difference, EXCEPT for the difference in looks. I pulled a full size Montana and and arrived every single place I set out to arrive, in one piece, with my back window and cab intact and backed in right next to the 8'ft bed pickups. Big difference though, I can park the SB Ram inside the garage all year! I a long bed would have to live outside in the sun and snow.
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I'm not in any way trying to beat anybody up on this issue. We all have our opinions. That's why America is a great place to live.
I have the ability to park my truck in my 40x42 pole building next to the camper, but choose not to most of the time simply because it gets in the way of doing anything else in that bay. If I had it to do over, I would have made it another bay wider, like 60x42
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2018 Chevy 3500 LTZ Dually Diesel 4x4 CCLB
2011 Montana 3455 SA. 6 point level up. Disc brakes. Curt Q24 Hitch. 5 step glow steps
Progressive EMS. Valterra tank valves. Sailun G637 tires. ARP fridge control. All led lighting. Mor Ryde IS
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10-27-2019, 06:33 PM
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#50
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: South East NC
Posts: 1,768
M.O.C. #19865
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Speck56
Ordered a 2020 GMC Sierra 3500HD crew cab, 8ft bed dually to pull a 3761fl. Strike cost me couple months but I will let you all know how it works out
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HHMMmm ~~~ Just a year ahead of you. Wifey wanted the 3761FL, A 2019, so I ordered a 2019 F350 dually. Very happy with both. We use our 5er about 6 months of the year and the dually is my DD.
On the 3/4 ton subject~~~ My neighbor pulls his Montana with a 2017 F250XLT. Scaled he is only 3100# over Weight. Not worth bothering looking at payload.
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John & Patty
2022 3855 BR
2019 Lariat F350 4X4 Dually
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10-27-2019, 06:49 PM
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#51
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,789
M.O.C. #14547
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I have a CC long bed truck. The last one was a CC SB which was used to tow a 5er as well. I could not make the back in 90 plus degree turn into our driveway without pulling well into the cul-de -ac island with a 12 foot wide road in the front of our house. The driveway does not come off the rod perpendiculer either which adds 10-15 degrees to my turn. A tree blocks the blindside. The long bed makes that 90+ degree turn with ease, though the front wheels do go on the island. No big deal as I do the maintenance on that island since my town wont.
It is a much smoother ride with and without the 5er hooked on
It is a PITA in a parking lot at 24 feet long, 173" wheel base. I do not fit in any 'normal' parking space. I DO NOT CARE!!. It gives me a bit of exercise to walk from the back 40. It fits in my garage with 4" at each end to spare It does irritate me if it's raining but have learned to carry an umbrella for my long walk.
This is my 4th of 8 with a long bed ('76, '79, '92, '11 sords). Did I say I prefer a LB? And Fords?
You own/drive what works for you. If a SB does the job, great - just be aware of that tight turn and proximity to that expensive back window and cab corner repairs - or use a slider hitch
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2014 Montana High Country 343RL (Sold!)
2011 Ford 6.7 Lariat CCLB (Went to PU Heaven)
2019 F150SC XLT SE Sport,w/full tow package
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10-28-2019, 12:02 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Eureka
Posts: 276
M.O.C. #14208
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I had the same problem with my short bed. I only had a problem when I had to back it in my driveway. Did not break a rear window but it was close. I went to a B&W Slider hitch and now I have plenty of room. It was worth the extra expense.
Jim Bonhote, 2014 3582RL, 2015 F350 Platinum.
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10-28-2019, 08:48 AM
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#53
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Gardnerville
Posts: 1,261
M.O.C. #17163
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I had the sb ram.unfortunatly the truck and trailer met. 200 over gvwr..went to a longbed dually, aisin,4:10, auto level Longhorn 4x4.. Dont think about weight now..took 2 years to find this truck...DEALERS JUST DONT STOCK THEM..
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10-28-2019, 09:14 AM
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#54
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Chattanooga
Posts: 664
M.O.C. #20906
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dfb
I had the sb ram.unfortunatly the truck and trailer met. 200 over gvwr..went to a longbed dually, aisin,4:10, auto level Longhorn 4x4.. Dont think about weight now..took 2 years to find this truck...DEALERS JUST DONT STOCK THEM..
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Not trying to be a SA, but why didn't you order one? You get exactly what you want.
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2019 Montana 3121RL
2017 XLT 350 SCLB DRW 4X4
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10-28-2019, 11:12 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Gardnerville
Posts: 1,261
M.O.C. #17163
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It worked out well.. DEALER gave me full trade in on my ram and the dually I bought had 1200 miles. I got it for 62000 when MSRP was 78000.. 16000 off..dave smith didn't even have a truck that had this equipment. Towbin, mcpeak, non.. so I got lucky..
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10-28-2019, 12:50 PM
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#56
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Maple Grove
Posts: 3
M.O.C. #23740
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We have pull a 2018 3660 using a Ford F350 short-bed with a PullRite SuperGlide hitch. Automatically slides back as the truck turns. Love it!
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10-28-2019, 02:30 PM
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#57
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Round Rock
Posts: 475
M.O.C. #17905
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SMac
We have pull a 2018 3660 using a Ford F350 short-bed with a PullRite SuperGlide hitch. Automatically slides back as the truck turns. Love it!
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If you have a "slider" hitch and you are backing a 14,000# 5er into a spot at a 75+degree angle UPHILL how does that slider push that big old trailer back 14" UPHILL? Not getting smart with anyone here, just asking. I have a long bed and no slider hitch so I really have no idea how that would work.
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Pete & Joan & "Honey" fur-baby.
2015 Montana 3611RL 2012 F350 6.7 DRW Lariat
Disc Brakes & Sailun 14 ply S637
6-pt Hydraulic leveling
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10-28-2019, 03:27 PM
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#58
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Maple Grove
Posts: 3
M.O.C. #23740
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteandJoan
If you have a "slider" hitch and you are backing a 14,000# 5er into a spot at a 75+degree angle UPHILL how does that slider push that big old trailer back 14" UPHILL? Not getting smart with anyone here, just asking. I have a long bed and no slider hitch so I really have no idea how that would work.
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I have no problem backing into a driveway with a 16" rise off a residential street.
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10-28-2019, 05:11 PM
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#59
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,325
M.O.C. #17894
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Have not tried it (but I will just to see ), but I think I can maneuver our rig CCLB to 110 Degrees or so WITH THE TAIL GATE DOWN. I know I can walk behind the truck from side to side with it down. I can also open the front compartment doors fully with the gate down.
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2018 Chevy 3500 LTZ Dually Diesel 4x4 CCLB
2011 Montana 3455 SA. 6 point level up. Disc brakes. Curt Q24 Hitch. 5 step glow steps
Progressive EMS. Valterra tank valves. Sailun G637 tires. ARP fridge control. All led lighting. Mor Ryde IS
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10-30-2019, 08:18 PM
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#60
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Holly Springs
Posts: 159
M.O.C. #19394
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I've had long bed, crew cab F350's since 2000. All have been daily drivers. In 2014, I went to F450 DRW long bed, crew cabs. Again, daily driver. I never have an issue with driving or parking. Most of it is in people's heads. They "think" the truck is too big. The wheel wells are not wider than the mirrors. My observation is that I can easily get the truck between the lines. Better than most people in much smaller vehicles can.
If you can't drive and park a long bed truck as a daily driver, you probably don't need to be towing a trailer anyway.
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