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11-16-2018, 03:19 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Auburn
Posts: 879
M.O.C. #18474
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My unit had a bad main board in the InCommand unit about 6 months after we bought it. After the breaker and board were replaced, we've had no other trouble with ours.
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11-16-2018, 08:21 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mountain Home
Posts: 864
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Also if you are operating hyd pump in cold weather then you need to siphon out a quart of so and replace with lower viscosity fluid. There is a Lippert TSB on this as well..
Replacing the auto reset breaker along with replacing some of that fluid with lower viscosity fluid will fix your issue.
And you can do both of these yourself. No need to pay a service center $75 an hour labor or more. 5 minute job to replace breaker and maybe ten minutes to change fluid.
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11-16-2018, 08:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bastrop
Posts: 2,892
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Labor os closer to $140 per hour
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12-06-2018, 10:30 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Terry
Posts: 158
M.O.C. #22698
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfmedik
Yep, the cooler weather increases the amperage draw for the pump and the weak resetting breaker is just not cutting it. Lippert recommends the 80A auto resetting one as in cold weather the pump has been shown to draw up to 72A.
Here is the TSB and a number you can use to find one on Amazon.
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Where is this breaker located exactly? No doubt in the front battery compartment but can you advise where exactly?
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12-06-2018, 10:41 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
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This is what you are looking for.
Do a Search for Circuit Breaker and you should find a bunch of posts and pictures.
Here is one link: Clicky
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There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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12-06-2018, 11:04 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Terry
Posts: 158
M.O.C. #22698
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carl n susan
This is what you are looking for.
Do a Search for Circuit Breaker and you should find a bunch of posts and pictures.
Here is one link: Clicky
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Confused? The breaker shown in your pic shows two wires in and two out. The picture of the CF181F-80 shows only one wire in and one out? https://www.amazon.com/Bussmann-CB18.../dp/B008QDI9HY
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12-06-2018, 01:08 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Auburn
Posts: 879
M.O.C. #18474
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As long as you keep the wires on the respective terminals, it will be fine. ALSO, the new breaker may have larger studs and the wire eyelets may have to be drilled out to be able to slide onto the new posts.
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12-18-2018, 01:45 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Terry
Posts: 158
M.O.C. #22698
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfmedik
Yep, the cooler weather increases the amperage draw for the pump and the weak resetting breaker is just not cutting it. Lippert recommends the 80A auto resetting one as in cold weather the pump has been shown to draw up to 72A.
Here is the TSB and a number you can use to find one on Amazon.
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Attached picture of the 80 amp Bussman breaker you noted with a picture of a 50 amp also that is currently installed. On the Bussman 80 amp I can not detect which connector is coming off of the hot side from the battery line? Bottom or top connector? Thanks for any clarification.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0174FF13Y...2-f976ad544836
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12-18-2018, 01:56 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Terry
Posts: 158
M.O.C. #22698
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfmedik
Yep, the cooler weather increases the amperage draw for the pump and the weak resetting breaker is just not cutting it. Lippert recommends the 80A auto resetting one as in cold weather the pump has been shown to draw up to 72A.
Here is the TSB and a number you can use to find one on Amazon.
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With the Bussman 80 Amp breaker can you clarify which terminal is the inlet from the battery line? I can't see a distinction from the picture. Thanks,
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12-18-2018, 02:01 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Terry
Posts: 158
M.O.C. #22698
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Golfmedik
Yep, the cooler weather increases the amperage draw for the pump and the weak resetting breaker is just not cutting it. Lippert recommends the 80A auto resetting one as in cold weather the pump has been shown to draw up to 72A.
Here is the TSB and a number you can use to find one on Amazon.
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With the Bussman 80 amp fuse I can not determine from the picture which post is the inlet from the battery. Can you clarify? Thanks,
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008QDI9HY...3nKB2NyrFp3nXo
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12-20-2018, 05:44 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Auburn
Posts: 879
M.O.C. #18474
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Sorry for not getting back to you quicker, I've been away from the computers. I don't think it matters at all if there is not input/output designation on the breaker.
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01-12-2019, 10:40 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Saugerties
Posts: 44
M.O.C. #21360
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I'm having the same issue in my 2018 Montana 3811ms. When I go to open/close my slides the system shuts down and resets itself. I notice the battery level at 13.6 when in start then drops into the 11's while there opening. Then the system resets and the battery level returns to 13.6 when it comes back on. This happens whether in pluged into a 50amp service or pluged into my truck. I can't believe my batteries could drop to 11 volts then recover to 13.6 in 10 seconds or so.
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2018 Montana Legacy 3811
2012 Ram 3500 4x4
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01-13-2019, 07:13 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Terry
Posts: 158
M.O.C. #22698
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D&D Young
I'm having the same issue in my 2018 Montana 3811ms. When I go to open/close my slides the system shuts down and resets itself. I notice the battery level at 13.6 when in start then drops into the 11's while there opening. Then the system resets and the battery level returns to 13.6 when it comes back on. This happens whether in pluged into a 50amp service or pluged into my truck. I can't believe my batteries could drop to 11 volts then recover to 13.6 in 10 seconds or so.
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I took my 2018 Montana in for the same issue and gave them the Lippert service notice advising of the need to upgrade the breaker from 50 to 80 amp. The service tech called and was told it would be the hydraulic trumbetta switch as the issue. I just picked it up from the shop since they just got it in under warranty and replaced it. Now only time will tell.
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01-13-2019, 07:56 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mountain Home
Posts: 864
M.O.C. #20949
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I don’t believe the hydraulic pump motor dual polarity solenoid is causing this issue...
The solenoid will either work or it won’t... should have replaced the slide lit resettable breaker with the larger 80 amp...
Additionally any corroded connection from battery to resettable breaker to solenoid will also cause slideout to stop due to drop in voltage
Tech at repair shop was clueless
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01-13-2019, 08:23 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Terry
Posts: 158
M.O.C. #22698
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChuckS
I don’t believe the hydraulic pump motor dual polarity solenoid is causing this issue...
The solenoid will either work or it won’t... should have replaced the slide lit resettable breaker with the larger 80 amp...
Additionally any corroded connection from battery to resettable breaker to solenoid will also cause slideout to stop due to drop in voltage
Tech at repair shop was clueless
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I questioned the same thing but the RV tech said he spoke with someone who said yes that that same trumbetta switch also controlled the slides which effects the iCommand. We'll see?? They had already upgraded the breaker switch from a 25 to 50 amp just earlier.
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