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04-16-2018, 01:33 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Lincoln
Posts: 69
M.O.C. #21450
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Originally Posted by OutlawPilot
Um, I think there's a step missing here. The glass doesn't seem to just "lift straight up." I'm pretty sure it's fastened somehow.
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Not on ours. Yours may be different. But it has been a couple of weeks....
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04-16-2018, 02:46 PM
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#222
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Lincoln
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M.O.C. #21450
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dlscott185
Not on ours. Yours may be different. But it has been a couple of weeks....
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Here's a link to the Furrion Fireplace user manual. It does reference screws holding the glass on, but I don't think ours had any.
https://www.furrion.com/support/manuals-downloads.html
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04-17-2018, 09:31 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Toronto
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M.O.C. #20672
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Originally Posted by dlscott185
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Turns out there are 4 screws across the top of the frame. If yours didn't have that I suspect it probably should have - at least one anyway. One good bump on the road and that glass cover could jump off.
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04-17-2018, 09:34 AM
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Montana Fan
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Location: Toronto
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Next little challenge... The GFI outlets in the kitchen and basement suddenly stopped working. The bathroom GFI and all other outlets work fine. I checked the breaker in the panel at the foot of the kitchen hutch and reset it, but it wasn't tripped. I don't see a reset button on any of the outlets themselves.
Is there another reset switch someplace?
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04-17-2018, 12:27 PM
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#225
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Toronto
Posts: 159
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I called Keystone and they wouldn't let me talk to a tech because they only consult with dealers. So I called my dealer (who of course told me to call Keystone) and they have no idea.
I don't see why this is such a mystery. The GFI in the bathroom works and is the only one with a reset button on the outlet. The 2 in the kitchen and the 1 in the basement are obviously wired together (since they're all out) and MUST be resettable... SOMEHOW! Otherwise, they wouldn't be GFIs!
In our previous class A, there was a reset switch for a pair of kitchen GFIs. It was a separate switch in the basement. So there simply MUST be a reset switch. The question is, where is it!??!?!?!?
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04-17-2018, 01:09 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Willow Spring
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M.O.C. #21514
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Did you check the outside outlet? Not sure if it is GFI but worth a shot!
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04-17-2018, 01:23 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rfulton0513
Did you check the outside outlet? Not sure if it is GFI but worth a shot!
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I was hoping your post was going to be my "ah-ha" moment, so I went out to check the outside outlet, and while it IS also a GFI, it does NOT have a reset switch either.
So, there's 5 GFIs (not 4 as previously thought): 1 in the bathroom (WITH a reset switch), 2 in the kitchen (NO reset switches), 1 outside (NO switch), 1 in the basement (NO switch). Only the bathroom works, though until yesterday all did.
No, "ah-ha" quite yet!
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04-17-2018, 01:42 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Lincoln
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M.O.C. #21450
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OutlawPilot
I was hoping your post was going to be my "ah-ha" moment, so I went out to check the outside outlet, and while it IS also a GFI, it does NOT have a reset switch either.
So, there's 5 GFIs (not 4 as previously thought): 1 in the bathroom (WITH a reset switch), 2 in the kitchen (NO reset switches), 1 outside (NO switch), 1 in the basement (NO switch). Only the bathroom works, though until yesterday all did.
No, "ah-ha" quite yet!
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Maybe check the outlets in the garage? That would be idiotic, but who knows.
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04-17-2018, 01:59 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bee Branch
Posts: 2,620
M.O.C. #20693
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Hmmmm. Since all the other Plug ins that need GFI protection but don’t have the buttons are slaves it is reasonable to consider that the wiring leaving the main GFI headed to the slaves may have lost contact?
But before you go pulling plug ins out maybe look a little more. Plug in behind couch or by tv gfi? I think there are outlets in the right front cabinet beside fireplace too....
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Bee Branch, AR.
2017 Ram 1 ton diesel duallyCrew Cab/Long Bed
2018 Montana High Country 381TH Garage Full of Toys
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04-17-2018, 02:01 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Bee Branch
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Let us know if you find additional GFI buttons. If you do might want to trip them and see what is a slave to each for future reference
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Bee Branch, AR.
2017 Ram 1 ton diesel duallyCrew Cab/Long Bed
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04-17-2018, 07:20 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Toronto
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M.O.C. #20672
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dlscott185
Maybe check the outlets in the garage? That would be idiotic, but who knows.
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Garage is jam packed with boxes as we're still moving in. My gut tell me no, but I'd have to unload into slush to find out for sure. I'll do that in a few days, but it will be nagging me to know for sure. But if it's like every other place I've checked, I'd count on no-joy.
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04-17-2018, 07:21 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Toronto
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M.O.C. #20672
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mtlakejim
Let us know if you find additional GFI buttons. If you do might want to trip them and see what is a slave to each for future reference
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How many buttons to YOU have?
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04-17-2018, 09:20 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Tacoma
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M.O.C. #20475
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Check the wiring on the back of the GFCI plug it should go from there to the other plugs my buddys had a problem like that found a wire came off they just clip into the back very chip plugins!
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04-17-2018, 09:33 PM
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Montana Fan
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Location: Toronto
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M.O.C. #20672
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BuilderBob
Check the wiring on the back of the GFCI plug it should go from there to the other plugs my buddys had a problem like that found a wire came off they just clip into the back very chip plugins!
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Good suggestion. I did open up the bathroom GFCI and all wiring looked present and firmly in place.
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04-18-2018, 04:00 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Willow Spring
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M.O.C. #21514
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What about the inventor GFI? If the fridge is still working than I guess that would still be good then! Man I am sorry that you are going thru this. Mine is in storage right now until Friday and you got me alittle worried for my trip this weekend. Hope you can figure it out.
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04-18-2018, 07:07 AM
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Montana Fan
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Location: Toronto
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M.O.C. #20672
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So I did as I'm inclined to do - made noise in order to get grease - and got a call from the shop foreman at my dealer first thing this morning! He suggests by my description that the GFCI is shot and should be replaced. I'm going to run out to Home Depot and swap it out to see if that works.
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04-18-2018, 08:42 AM
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Montana Master
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Location: Bee Branch
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M.O.C. #20693
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Doesn’t sound like that to me but go for it and let us know
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Bee Branch, AR.
2017 Ram 1 ton diesel duallyCrew Cab/Long Bed
2018 Montana High Country 381TH Garage Full of Toys
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04-18-2018, 09:42 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: piseco
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M.O.C. #20884
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OutlawPilot
So I did as I'm inclined to do - made noise in order to get grease - and got a call from the shop foreman at my dealer first thing this morning! He suggests by my description that the GFCI is shot and should be replaced. I'm going to run out to Home Depot and swap it out to see if that works.
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It is very possible, usually if they are shot you can use the test button then push the reset and get a quick click as it pops to open circuit again confirming with a volt meter.
I had several fail quickly when I built our S&B house.
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04-18-2018, 04:19 PM
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#239
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bee Branch
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M.O.C. #20693
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Quote:
Originally Posted by powerhaulic
It is very possible, usually if they are shot you can use the test button then push the reset and get a quick click as it pops to open circuit again confirming with a volt meter.
I had several fail quickly when I built our S&B house.
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He said his main plug worked. That is why I question it being faulty
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Bee Branch, AR.
2017 Ram 1 ton diesel duallyCrew Cab/Long Bed
2018 Montana High Country 381TH Garage Full of Toys
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04-18-2018, 07:29 PM
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#240
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bee Branch
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M.O.C. #20693
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I went around and checked my electric outlets. Most had little white GFCI stickers but only the one in bathroom had the buttons
If replacing that doesn’t work your going to have to figure out which plug is the first slave and test it. Either the wires are loose on one of the slaves or perhaps there is a junction box the main feeds to then splits off. Keep us posted
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Bee Branch, AR.
2017 Ram 1 ton diesel duallyCrew Cab/Long Bed
2018 Montana High Country 381TH Garage Full of Toys
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