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09-27-2017, 03:54 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Fall Creek
Posts: 1,337
M.O.C. #3699
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A "What Is It Question"
Under the vanity in our 2015 3440RL 4 water lines come up from the basement. I can tell the hot and cold, they are red and blue. No problem. But there are two white lines that seem connected by some sort of black thingy. What are these for and what is that black thingy that connects them together?
Thanks
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Bob and Nancy Kassl Fall Creek, Wisconsin
2015 Montana 3440RL Legacy Edition, G614's, Pressure Pro TPMS, Dish Tailgaters
2016 GMC Sierra Denali 3500 CC SRW, Iridium Metallic, Duramax Allison Transmission
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09-27-2017, 04:20 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Fort Wayne
Posts: 477
M.O.C. #17609
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That is the line for the Black Tank Flush and the black thingy is a backflush preventer valve (one way valve).
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855W Solar System, TriStar MPPT-60 Controller, Magnum 2800W Inverter, 6 Trojan T-105REs
2015 Chevy Duramax SRW SB Crew Cab
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09-27-2017, 05:15 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Fall Creek
Posts: 1,337
M.O.C. #3699
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Thanks, from what I have read around here I thought that what it could be, nice to know for sure. Haven't some folks had problems with the one way valve and had to replace it?
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Bob and Nancy Kassl Fall Creek, Wisconsin
2015 Montana 3440RL Legacy Edition, G614's, Pressure Pro TPMS, Dish Tailgaters
2016 GMC Sierra Denali 3500 CC SRW, Iridium Metallic, Duramax Allison Transmission
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09-27-2017, 05:45 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Baton Rouge
Posts: 93
M.O.C. #19869
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Any pics?
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LSUisiana
2011 3580RL "For Sale"
2016 3721RL
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09-27-2017, 05:59 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,663
M.O.C. #2283
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A lot of people have trouble with it. Most people me take it out and throw it in the trash can or replace it with a one way valve. That is what I did.
Lynwood
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09-27-2017, 06:22 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
Posts: 2,328
M.O.C. #17894
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I got rid of mine as soon as I read about trouble with them leaking and flooding out campers. That was not going to happen to me. I cut the line going to, and coming from it and connected them together with a 90. Potential problem solved before it became one.
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09-27-2017, 06:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: 1000 oaks
Posts: 978
M.O.C. #19630
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If you remove the back flow device and connect the lines together you will have the potential to have a siphon and then have black water come out of the hose connection in the utility center.
The only time this device could flood the trailer is if it broke while you were flushing the tank. It is not otherwise pressurized. However, flush valves on the toilet can fail and overfill the bowl and the rig.
Turn the water supply off when you're not home.
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2022 GMC 2500HD Duramax/Alison
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09-27-2017, 07:19 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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I cut out the one in the old rig and will get the one in the new rig this winter. I replace them by using a metal backflow preventor on the outside connection. That way I still won't get backflow into the hose, but I've got that POS out of the rig.
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09-28-2017, 05:33 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: westminster md
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M.O.C. #17894
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prndl, I don't see that ever happening. I have been all over my camper from top to bottom. I know exactly how everything is plumbed and wired. I have had the entire coroplast enclosure off to straighten everything out in the underbelly. What a mess it was. The black tank flush is mounted up near the top in the back of the black tank and goes up hill quite a bit to the convenience center. My tank never gets full enough to even have that nozzle submerged. I never travel with anything in the holding tanks. I have been to campgrounds that are very rough and have gone down steep grades to the dump station with that tank 1/2 to 3/4 full and have never had a drop come out of the hose connection. As for using the sprayer to clean the tank, there is no way for the water to go backwards since the tank would be near empty when in use and that sprayer nozzle in the tank would be know where near the fluid level. Even if one did have the issue you described, it could be fixed in seconds by installing a in line CTS backflow preventer.
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09-28-2017, 09:32 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,359
M.O.C. #6433
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Like some others, I removed mine and use an external backflow preventor valve. Was doing a flush when DW began yelling that water was coming out of the pocket door and running across the floor and down the steps. My valve was in the wall behind the shower and behind the pocket door. Valve pipe fitting had broken off. And yes, it did flood the floor before I could get it shut off.
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Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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