Pin weight of Mountaineer 362

[twindman]

Does anyone have the actual pin weight of their 362?
I have a 2980 Montana and it weighs in at around 2800 lb. Specs say it should be around 2465.
Since I may be getting a 362RL next year, I was wondering about pin weight, since the specs say around 2055.
p.s. I am about 600 lb overweight now (no fat jokes!).

 

[DQDick]

The only really accurate pin weight you can get is to weigh the rig with your stuff in it. First weigh each axle of the truck without it, then with it on (Escapee's will actually give you a wheel by wheel weight which is also very helpful). How you load it and how it rides behind your truck will all have an effect on pin weight. What it weighed leaving the factory will allow you a guess factor, but not a real answer IMHO.

 

[Art-n-Marge]

Documented pin weights are typical when the rig is empty. To estimate a pin weight, take the gross weight (not axle weights) of the trailer and multiply by .18 (18%) to get the minimum typical pin weight of a residential RV, then multiply by .25 (25%) typical high end of the possible pin weight of a residential RV, then go to the scales and make sure your actual calculated pin weight are between those two numbers. For my rig I am between 19% and 20% and my rig is below the GTWR.

Again, the documented number is trash as far as I'm concerned. Only the scales will tell you, but using the range I described above is the typical range of pin weight you want to use as a guideline for estimating.

Montanas are typically heavier than the Mountaineers so those numbers sound about right. Use the 18% and 25% calculations on the 362RL's gross weight rating to find the range you need to know. Don't go by the documented pin weight since it's a horrible estimate anyway.

 

[twindman]

Still waiting for an actual pin weight from an owner?????

 

[Irlpguy]

quote:Originally posted by twindman

Still waiting for an actual pin weight from an owner?????

Since you have not had a reply from a 362RL owner let alone any "actual" pin weights from an owner, I would take a different route and weigh you TV. Make sure it is loaded as you would have it when you are pulling your RV, full of fuel and with any passengers on board.

Subtract the scaled weight of your TV from the GVWR as posted on the door frame and you will know how much additional weight you can carry in the truck, therefore the pin weight you can handle and yet not exceed your TV's GVWR. If this is what you are concerned with then depending on how close this number is to the factory listed pin weight for the 362FL (2055) you will have an idea how much you can add in accessories and "things" to any new RV.

Just a different approach that might help.

 

[Art-n-Marge]

Even if you have an actual pin weight from an owner, it does not mean this will be your weight unless you pack EXACTLY the same items (and their weight) in the EXACT locations at every spot on the rig. The OP just wants a number from an current owner just for the asking.

According to the website, the closest I could find are a 2012 or 2013 362RLQ which has a shipping weight of 11,605 and CCC of 2,450 (Gross weight = 13,855) and a pin weight of 2,055 or 14.832% (close to 15% for RV residential fivers). While it can be calculated that the pin weight can be expected between 15% and 25%, or 2078.25 to 3463.75 lbs, the OP is asking for a specific owner to provide their pin weight. From that we'll all know if the poster is within the weight but not specifically knowing the TV specs won't know if they are overweight at the TV.

twindman is aware that his '06 2980 is overweight for his TV. Per the website the '06 2980 shipping weight is 12865 and CCC is 2200 (or 15065 Gross weight). Documented pin weight is 2465 (16.32%). The PW should be 2465 to 3766 (16% to 25%). Twindman's current pin weight is 2800, which is within the range but still too much weight for his TV by about 600 lbs and he's aware of that.

Since the numbers for a 362RL are lighter than his current rig and he packs it with the same stuff in the same locations within the rig, then the weight should drop since the trailer itself has a gross weight (1210 lbs less), then it should help. If the trailer is less gross weight by 1210 lbs or (about 8%) then the pin weight could change by that same percentage or from 2800 to 2575, or 225 lbs lighter. You might still be overweight but by 375 lbs not 600. Your fat joke should turn into a chubby joke. I also hope my math is correct.

 

[twindman]

Art-n-marge,
Thanks for the details. One problem I found on the website is there is an error in the factory weight for the 2006 model. If you check the 2007 it is something like 10600 (If my memory is correct). This number is in line with my real weight. Loaded up with the pin and axle weight, I think I come in at around 12,100.

Anyway, thanks everyone for their input. I am just wanting to satisfy my self that I will be very close to or under the truck GVWR next year.

 

[Hooker-MOC]

Multiply the GVWR times 20%...that will get you close.