new tires ? what kind

[Okierver]

thinking of getting rid of my powerking towmax tires after our blowout
i need a good 80psi 23580r16 tire prefer load range g if possible help anyone have any ideas

 

[moutard2]

Goodyear G949 Steel belts AND sidewalls!

 

[DQDick]

The G949's or any good LT tire that is built to handle the weight. You'll find many here who swear by Michelin, Durvis and others.

 

[randye-MOC]

I put Toyo's on last Feb and so far they look like new.

 

[dieselguy]

Michelin LTX M/S 2
LT235/85R16
Looks good / lasts a long time / coded black for easy identification

 

[Art-n-Marge]

If you want to stick with an ST, the only recommendation is MAXXIS, but they are not G-Rated. I'm not familiar with the Goodyear 949, but many others swear by the Goodyear G614.

 

[LuckyNichol]

Michelin LTX M/S 2 on our High Country.

 

[1retired06]

We have run Firestone Transforce LT tires (E Load) for years with no problems. Most of the LT tires come as 85R vice 80R but should be plenty of clearance.

 

[WeBeFulltime-MOC]

I am also very satisfied with my Michelin LTX MS tires.

 

[GreatWhite]

My china bombs are E rated. And they are rated for a higher payload per tire than most of the tires the forum has been recommending. As a for instance. With David's recommendation above.. for my tire.. the rating is only 2680 lbs per tire. To me, that's going backwards.. (Sorry David.. I'm not hitting on you.. it's just an example.. and I admit.. I'm not a tire guru.. so, I may well be missing something here)

I was successful in contacting Goodyear and telling them about the concerns here on MOC and they put me in touch with a local Goodyear dealer. When I went to the dealer, they told me that the tires, such as the G614 were rated at a lower rating per tire than the chinabombs.. and would not put them on without a letter of approval from Keystone. The dealer could not find a tire with as high a payload in the same size as the c-bomb.

So, I'm guessing that E load is not E load is not E load.

Also, the dealer, due to possible liability issues if something goes wrong, would not put on a tire that has a larger size (diameter) without approval from Keystone. My dry weight is under 12,000 lbs.. but, I'll be carrying food, camping gear, tools, some water, propane, etc.. which will put me well over 3000 lbs per tire.

So, I don't know what you guys are doing... I look at the ones that are recommended.. and it's true.. the payload per tire is less than the c-bomb.. and, while I was hot on putting on one of the tires you all have recommended, I'd hate to have one of them blow and find out during an accident investigation with the insurance company that my new tires were not meant for the given load. So, I fully understand where my local tire company is coming from.

 

[Irlpguy]

I am afraid your Goodyear tire dealer gave you incorrect information GreatWhite. The Goodyear G614 is a Load Range "G" tire, 14 ply rated and is max load rated at 3750 lbs per tire. The Marathon is a Load Range "E" tire and is rated at 3420 lbs. All of the LT tires otherwise mentioned are rated at 3042 lbs or therabouts.

http://www.goodyear.com/cfmx/web/truck/line.cfm?prodline=160007

That is higher than any of the LT tires being recommended as replacement and "is" higher than the Marathons. It is also rated at 75 mph as are most of the LT tires, where the Marathon is only rated to 65 mph as are all ST tires.

All the other tires mentioned in this thread are Load Range "E" and are 10 ply rated. It seems a lot of owners have switched to some of the recommended tires and have had no problems, but you are reducing the weight carrying capacity per tire from the Marathon and considerably from the G614.

 

[dieselguy]

Bill ... as cussed and discussed before to great lengths on many threads ... ST tires are rated at almost max capacity with little reserve ... the tires we've been mentioning for the medium sized units on down have a much greater reserve capacity. My tire store knew full well what the LT tires were going on and that they were almost 1" taller ... they recommeded them. Follow the direction you are the most comfortable with as others on the MOC have.

 

[GreatWhite]

Thanks dieselguy.. i did a little more looking around.. especially at the Load Range F.

I think this might be well worth looking at along with the links at the bottom of that page:

http://www.etrailer.com/question-54801.html

 

[GreatWhite]

quote:Originally posted by Irlpguy

I am afraid your Goodyear tire dealer gave you incorrect information GreatWhite. The Goodyear G614 is a Load Range "G" tire, 14 ply rated and is max load rated at 3750 lbs per tire. The Marathon is a Load Range "E" tire and is rated at 3420 lbs. All of the LT tires otherwise mentioned are rated at 3042 lbs or therabouts.

http://www.goodyear.com/cfmx/web/truck/line.cfm?prodline=160007

That is higher than any of the LT tires being recommended as replacement and "is" higher than the Marathons. It is also rated at 75 mph as are most of the LT tires, where the Marathon is only rated to 65 mph as are all ST tires.

All the other tires mentioned in this thread are Load Range "E" and are 10 ply rated. It seems a lot of owners have switched to some of the recommended tires and have had no problems, but you are reducing the weight carrying capacity per tire from the Marathon and considerably from the G614.

Well could be I didn't state things properly.. Easy for me
I believe he didn't want to put on the G614 due to it being a larger diameter which would put the two wheels closer together. He was just covering his butt if legalitys created an issue.

That said, the wheel spacings on this rv are greater than any 5er I've ever had. I have a set of Roto-Chocks that I've used on the last two 5ers and they aren't nearly wide enough to fill the space between the tires on the Mountaineer to provide intra wheel chocking. Sad, they are GREAT chocks. Could be that the larger diameter wheels would work much better and allow me to use my RC's

 

[moutard2]

... look at these ... Sailun S637 14 ply rating load range G. I've heard very good things but have no personal experience with these tires.

 

[Irlpguy]

It is interesting to note that the Karrier ST235/85R16 Radial tire is rated on their website at 3960 lbs, is F rated but only has 7 plys and no steel in the sidewalls. Also made offshore if that is of concern, which in many cases must be according to the constant referencing Marathons as China Bombs. The capacity of this tire is rated greater then a Goodyear G614 G rated tire. I wonder why that is. I could not find a speed rating on the tire, however it is an ST tire therefore I would assume it is 65 mph.

Now the Sailun tire again is made offshore but is a G rated tire with a capacity of 3750 lbs @ 110 psi, however it is an LT tire (not ST) rated for 75 mph, basically the same rating as a G614 but no where near the price.

Between the Karrier and the Sailun tires, I would take the Sailun hands down.

There is so much confusion, misinformation and just plain malarky being handed out by tire dealers, and on this and many other forums regarding tires it is difficult to know what is right and what is wrong. I am no tire expert and continue to try and educate myself on the best tires for the Job we want to accomplish. I toss out a lot of what I read because it is contradictory to plain ordinary common sense.

I am still running my Marathons, (9000 miles) if I could afford new tires and were in the market to replace my current ones, I would buy the Goodyear G614. That is not an expert opinion nor a recommendation, it is based on what I know from family and friends who have had them on their horse trailers or heavy RV's for quite some time.

 

[bigred715]

My first blowout with Marathon Bombs was at about 15,000 miles and was a tread separation on the corner. That was enough to change my mind of the reliability of the Chinese junk. That is on a Montana 3000RK which is one of the lighter Montanas. I doubt that you will make it much past 15,000 miles before you have a problem. They are an inferior tire.

 

[Bill and Jan]

Did you know that if you change tires and your roto-o-choks no longer fit you can buy just the black piece to change the size of the chocks.

 

[Rainer-MOC]

After experiencing a blowout with tread separation after a 9K journey around the U.S., the first big trip with our 2013 343RL HC, we switched to 4 - Uniroyal LT 235/85 R16 120/1160 M+8. We were just 330 miles from home. We suffered some cosmetic damage and the trailer is now in the repair shop, hoping that we'll be covered by insurance. Coincidently at the tire shop it was determined that a second tire was also getting ready to separate!

And no, the tire pressure monitoring system didn't warn us. The explosion of the tire was immediately followed by the lights and alarm of the TPS.

The wheels on our Monte are good for 80 psi, but not for the higher pressures required of the G614.

My recommendation, definitely stay away from ST tires, go with the best AMERICAN MADE LT tire you can afford. E-rated minimum, but G-rated is better. If you can afford the stronger wheels and the G614 tires, you'll probably get the best that there is. Currently I'm satisfied with my AMERICAN MADE Uniroyals.

 

[Ramblin Roadrunners]

Are anyone having issues with the Goodyear G rated tires?
Jay D.