maybe you but not me

[BSHGTO]

Why do some guys think they`re above the physics of towing or know more than the truck's engineers? I`ve met a couple of these types, you couldn`t convince them they`re doing something wrong or dangerous. Another reason I don`t follow anyone towing anything. I could see this happening at 70 mph in the left lane.

 

[AZ Traveler]

Brian,

That setup looks fairly tame although you can't really see the trailer. Almost looks like there is a defect with the frame of the tow rig.

 

[BSHGTO]

Brian,

That setup looks fairly tame although you can't really see the trailer. Almost looks like there is a defect with the frame of the tow rig.
I don`t think the frame is the defect. The other picture of a Ram doing the same thing that was denied as a warranty claim which specifically says don`t do this in the owner's manual. I`m sure Ford would say the same thing.

 

[Theunz]

While I agree with bshgto about the camper not looking too heavy, there is no telling how much tongue weight is on that trailer. I think most people have no idea about proper weight distribution when loading trailers.

 

[Derby6]

Although I agree with the sediment.
Count the lugs — that’s an F450 Should be able to handle that with no problem IMO. I suspect somebody drilled did something to the center frame that caused that.

 

[432bartman]

Could be frame rot if it's from the east coast

 

[Derby6]

Although I just learned that an F350 actually has a higher payload than a 450. Who knew? Lol

 

[Monte421]

Ford tough I guess.

 

[Artfuldodger]

How is it possible that an F350 has a higher payload than an F450?

 

[AZ Traveler]

How is it possible that an F350 has a higher payload than an F450?

The GVWR is similar but the truck is heavier resulting in a lower payload.

 

[Artfuldodger]

Why would someone pay extra for an F450 if it won't carry as much as anF350? Isn't that the point of a heavier truck? I don't get it. I have anF350 . Perhaps the F450 can pull more.

 

[Derby6]

Yes it can pull more. But I’m with you 120%. It should hold more too. Lol

 

[AZ Traveler]

Why would someone pay extra for an F450 if it won't carry as much as anF350? Isn't that the point of a heavier truck? I don't get it. I have anF350 . Perhaps the F450 can pull more.

Bigger brakes and a much tighter turning radius.

 

[Carl n Susan]

The F450 is built to bumper pull really heavy loads. Consequently the increased frame and suspension weight makes it heavier and reduces the GVWR. The main reason to buy one is the turning radius and bigger brakes as stated before. The bad news is, in some states, registration can be an issue allegedly.

 

[scottz]

Yes, the F-350 DRW has about 800Lb more payload (depends on year) because the truck weighs less, but the F-450 is the tow monster; my GCWR is 42800. My '14 SRW F-350 GCWR was 23k. Rule of thumb: F-550 for payload, F-450 for towing, but all three trucks are very capable. Just stay within limits.

Back to original point; that camper is heavy, truck is at or over GVWR before the trailer was added. Add tongue weight and it is over loaded. Not sure if it is within GCWR. Still; bummer for the owner.

 

[foldbak]

Seams to be a thing.

 

[Derby6]

Except that one is a dodge I do believe.

 

[jsb5717]

Except that one is a dodge I do believe.

Yep, looks like a 5th gen RAM...2019 or newer. I have no idea what campers with a slide weigh but that RAM should have a payload of >5000 lbs. Mine does...

I'm guessing that the problem is with the added weigh/torque of the length that hangs way past the tailgate. Probably same issue in the OP's pic. Just too much bumper weight.

 

[mlh]

Having that much weight that high up puts a lot if strain in the frame. The constant back and forth motion stresses the frame and will eventually cause it to fall. 5000 pounds in the bed is a lot different than some of it 8 feet higher than the bottom of the bed. So much for weight specifications.
Lynwood

 

[BB_TX]

The front part of the frame has some structural support from the cab. The rear part of the frame has some structural support from the bed. But those few inches between the cab and bed have no extra support. That tall heavy camper is going to tend to rock back and forth front to rear at every start, stop, and every bounce down the highway. And that center part of the frame is going to be the primary bending point. Given enough time and miles flexing, the metal fatigue will eventually weaken that area, no matter the brand.