I admit ... I became a victim of "stupidity!"

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An experienced RVer shared a cautionary tale about a cold night at Audubon State Historic Site in Louisiana, where a mix-up between the fresh water and black tank flush connections led to a disastrous overflow. While troubleshooting a furnace issue, the member accidentally hooked the water hose to the black tank flush instead of the fresh water tank. This resulted in a dramatic and messy eruption from the toilet, flooding the RV with black tank water. Despite decades of RV experience, the... More...

DutchmenSport

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We are currently camped at the Audubon State Historic Site near St. Francisville, Louisiana. We've been here (this time) since Oct 1 as I am here as a camp host.

Weather predictions for Louisiana are bleak as temperatures drop. The entire area is in a panic. Predicted low ... around 25 degrees! (really) ... at home in Indiana, it it negative 4 with a wind chill of 20 below. Oh well .... These Southern folks just freak out when a colder than freezing event happens.

In preparation for the overnight low, I planned on filling my fresh water tank, disconnecting the garden hose, drain it, and make sure my sewer hose is drained good. Then simply leave the hoses in place.

My day went well. I did house tours all day at the plantation house and planned when the day was over proceeded to take final steps for the camper. Unfortunately, while on my last tour of the day, my wife calls and says we are out of propane and the furnace is out. No problem I said, I have just a few minutes left on the tour and I'll be over and switch tanks.

Well, that was the beginning of stupidity! Bear with me, this story will probably have everyone laughing in stitches.

I got back to the camper and found out we had plenty of propane. I then checked the Dometic Thermostat (front half of the camper one ... AC/heat pump, furnace). It has an E1 error code. I'd never seen this before.

Mind you, it's beginning to get dark, coldER is coming, I need that furnace running to keep the underbelly warm, in approaching slight panic mode.... what to do.

You guessed it ... good old Google. Turns out the E1 code is a "connection" issue. Had lots of instructions on resetting the thermostat. ..... Oh Duh! The water hose.

I rushed outside and connected the water hose to the fresh water tank, turned on the water and would wait for the overflow to let me know the tank was full .... then drain the hose and put it up out of the cold. All under control .... pew! Water concern all OK.

Meanwhile..... the reset on the thermostat does not work ... nothing. I cannot clear the error. Last effort, disconnect power to the thermostat. I pull it from the wall, and unhook the red wire... it goes out as expected. Directions say, let it sit a few seconds before powering up again. Oh ... the water is still turned on. I better check.

I step outside and the wife yells at me ..... WATER IS RUNNING OUT OF THE BATHROOM FLOODING INTO THE BACK BEDROOM!

I rush back in.... water all over the floor ... what the "H***!" She said, it's coming from the toilet! OH MY Gosh! What just happened. Stupid as stupid gets ..... what does Mr. Stupid do? Yep ..... PUSH THE PEDDLE!

Want to know what happened ... it isn't pretty! Has anyone seen Old Faithful at Yellowstone? Well ... that's what happened when I pushed the peddle. Black Tank water shot straight up out of the toilet bowl that was completely full and overflowing. It shot a good 5 feet straight up in the air! REALLY!

It shot all over me, all over the walls, all over the towels hanging on the wall, all over the toilet paper, the toilet brush, the shower wall, dumped in a gigantic splash all over the floor, and running out the door to the bedroom (I guess the trailer is on a slight slope after settling for 2 months.

Yep, it really was that bad! The "wet" was not the bad part, it was the SMELL! OMG!

She yells at me..... when you hooked up the water hose, did you hook it up to the black tank and NOT the fresh water tank!

Soaking wet, I ran outside, shut off the water spigot, and pulled the black tank valve and got it draining and then checked the garden hose .... OH DUH! Stupidity at it's finest! Yep! I attached it to the black tank.

In my anxiety over the furnace problem I just was not think straight when I hooked up the water. In 40 years of RV camping and ownership, and a life time of RV familiarity .... it happened to me!

Lesson learned.... "It CAN happen to anyone!"

So the wife starts grabbing towels, starts mopping the floor up the best she can. The place stinks awful, and little by little we get the floor flood under control. Meanwhile, my thermostat is still not working. NOW we desperately need the furnace working to help dry up the floor!

I went over to the maintenance bay at the park and returned with a string mop and bucket and with a very strong bleach water solution I moped, and moped, and moped. The smell was still awful. I got to the point I absolutely had to get back to the thermostat problem.

Then I came up with an idea. The camper has 2 identical Dometic thermostats, one for each AC. So, I simply disconnected the one for the rear AC (bedroom) and put it in the front. It took a little time and those wires were small and my fingers are big, and now is completely dark outside, and the interior lighting is casing shadows causing it to be very difficult to actually see the fine details where the wires attach and the wires could have been longer... but they weren't. So like a surgeon at the operating table, I was able to finally hook up both thermostats again.

The switch worked. The original bedroom one worked as expected in the kitchen, and the original kitchen was still throwing the E1 error code when hooked up in the bedroom ..... BUT! the one in the kitchen was working perfectly fine! The furnace was running, fan worked, heat pump kicked on.... everything good!

Well in freezing weather, you don't need AC, so the broken one is still broken, but now in the bed room. My wife ordered a new Dometic off Amazon last night when we went to bed. It will be delivered tomorrow! (Tuesday).

Meanwhile.... oh yes, there is a "meanwhile".... the odor still lingers. We then used Oda-Ban on the floor, soaked all the items that were on the floor in the bed room (that's where the smell lingered ... bathroom odors are gone). With the furnace running, the heat under the floor is drying things out real nice, and this morning when we woke up, the odors are greatly reduced. There is still a lingering effect, but we think it's dissipating. I really won't know until I leave the camper a few minutes and then come back in to smell.

So there it is folks. Trust me when I say this! There is NOT any experience anywhere on earth quite like being covered by a fountain of ..... (toilet water) .....
 
Dutch - I feel your pain. I could write a several-volume book series on my bone-head stupid stuff experiences. After DW finished editing it - it would be a couple of volumes longer! Hope you get it cleaned up.
 
Sorry for your problems. We have all done some pretty stupid things at one time or another.

But, yes, I did get a good laugh.
 
The only people who don’t make mistakes are the ones who don’t do anything. I’m not one of them so I’ll keep making mistakes.
Lynwood
 
My secret to avoid connecting the shore water to the black tank flush rather than the RV water supply is foolproof. I use two types of quick disconnect fittings on the RV water input and a reverse direction connectors on the black tank flush. That way there is no possibility of connecting a hose to the wrong inlet.

Set #1 - Male quick disconnect for male end of hose

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Set #2 - Male disconnect for the female hose end.

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I think we all finished your story when you got to the part about water coming out of your toilet Dutch...

On my older rig I don't have to worry about that because I am so used to filling the fresh water tank by shoving an adapter down the tube next to the fresh water hookup that I cannot imagine ever hooking up to the black tank flush about 18" NW of that fill tube.

Then again, I may not be old enough to make that mistake yet. Lord knows I make plenty of others about the same caliber on a far too regular basis!
 
I can only imagine what a terrible mess that was. We’re composting toilet people (Natures Head). Been using one since 2018. They’re a little more work but they eliminate all the black tank maintenance and issues. First got introduced to it by the Wynns:
 

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Perhaps and update?

As of yesterday evening, we still had a lingering "odor" in the back half of the camper. In spite of all the mopping and cleaning, it still had an unwanted smell (you KNOW what I mean!)... but thank goodness, it wasn't overpowering.

Then the thought hit me when I was about business and did one more clean-up. Only this time, I removed the floor furnace vent that is right beside the toilet. I used some bleach water and with a wash cloth reached in the vent as far as I could to mop it out. When I finished that, I took a couple cups of strong bleach water and simply poured it directly in the floor vent duct work, let it set a few minutes and then tried to mop it out with the wash cloth. All that water went somewhere? Who knows.

My thoughts were, if there were any holes in the air duct, the original "fountain of spay" would have fallen in the vent, into the duct and continued rolling down hill (which ever direction was "down hill") Well, I think it worked, because when I used the wash cloth again, I did not lap up very much bleach water. That cup of bleach water ran somewhere.... hopefully covering the original "mess" trapped somewhere in the underbelly.

I waited about 30 minutes, the furnace kicked on, and I figured the heat would dry out the bleach water. I think it did, the camper smelled STRONG of bleach ... much better than that "poo" smell!

I then followed up with one more treatment. I poured about a quart of Oda-Ban down that same air vent / duct and just let it run wherever gravity took it and put the vent cover back in place.

Well, when the furnace kicked on the next time.... the Oda-Ban was a very welcome scent! No poo smell any more. All gone. Camper smells nice, actually very fresh right now. I just might start spraying some Oda-Ban into the air ducts every now and then to help keep the camper smelling fresh!

Smells all gone this morning! AND the floors got mopped .... REALLY nice and clean!
 
Sh.t happens is a quick explanation.

Thanks for sharing your experience as a reminder that anything can happen to us “experienced “ camper’s!
 
Something else I noticed, every time you had a “thought”, something unpleasant happened. Do what I do, don’t think, just do. That way you don’t have “accidents”, just “on purposes”. Haha
 
I thought with your years of experience this would not happen with you. Impossible! That same thing happened with me by hooking fresh water to black tank flush. Didn't think I could be so careless and hook it up that way, but it happened and had the over flowing toilet. I guess we are human and our mind plays tricks on us. We sold our Montana this past August and no longer have these problems. Health reasons and costs, we decided to sell relucktantly. Really miss going to Arizona for the winter and jealous of our neighbors leaving in October for Yuma. Such is life.
 
So funny now isn’t it. They should make a movie about what happened. Wait, they already did.

I did the same thing when flushing the black tank. I was using the flusher and got side tracked until the wife started screaming. I knew right away away what I did wrong. In my case the water went up the vent pipe and when it got to the top of the pipe it just ran down the side of the pipe all over the inside of the wall. Luckily for me it was fairly clean water because I had already dumped a couple of times
 
This reminds me of one of my favorite movies with Robin Williams in RV only he did it outside the RV. Good luck Dutch with the smell, I would think it should dissipate with all the bleach you used. Just goes to show you nothing is fool proof!
 
I remember the feeling of that sort of shower. Our first class C had two gate valves underneath.......I had to find out what they were for.....so I pulled them. Drilled me midsection. I thought my wife was going to die laughing. I feel your pain brotha.
 
So DutchmenSport, in your last post are you saying even after being covered in ?$&@, you came out smelling like a rose ?
Yep! Camper actually smells incredibly clean right now, and the floors, after moping up, using bleach water, and a final mop with Oda-Ban, floors are really nice and clean! Our clothes and towels ran through the washing machine twice. And the air duct under the floor got washed out. All that water and Oda-Ban I poured down the vent ran to the low end of the ductwork, collected, and it was mopped out too, cleaning everything in the duct.

Just an fyi.... Oda-Ban is fantastic stuff. You can put it in a spray bottle and use it as an air freshener too.

All good now!
 
My secret to avoid connecting the shore water to the black tank flush rather than the RV water supply is foolproof. I use two types of quick disconnect fittings on the RV water input and a reverse direction connectors on the black tank flush. That way there is no possibility of connecting a hose to the wrong inlet.

Set #1 - Male quick disconnect for male end of hose

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Set #2 - Male disconnect for the female hose end.

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Carl, this is brilliant. I have a collapsible hose I only use for black tank flushing, and another one only for drinking water. I keep them in separate tubs for safety. I have been using quick disconnects since I started RVing six years ago. Switching the QDs will insure I never accidentally connect the wrong hose to the wrong port. Thanks!
 
Carl, this is brilliant. I have a collapsible hose I only use for black tank flushing, and another one only for drinking water. I keep them in separate tubs for safety. I have been using quick disconnects since I started RVing six years ago. Switching the QDs will insure I never accidentally connect the wrong hose to the wrong port. Thanks!
Just ordered them on Amazon. The ones I normally use are from Walmart during lawn season; these are male QD to male hose end. This link is for the ones Walmart does not carry, which are female hose end to male QD. NOTE: all QDs are not equal! Walmart, Home Depot and Lowes all sell brass QDs that look alike, but will not seal each other. I bought two sets of two of these so I can replace them when the time comes. I find they start leaking from corrosion in about two years. Only buy replacements from the same company you are replacing from.

Here are the links:
 
Buck, I've found that if I periodically put Vaseline on the rubber O-Ring, it will keep it supple enough to seal. Maybe 3-4 time a year.
 

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