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03-04-2014, 03:42 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Frostproof, FL USA
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M.O.C. #13272
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quote:Originally posted by rohrmann
As others, I am having a hard time understanding why there would be power in the cord from the trailer, once it is disconnected from the tow vehicle. The tow vehicle supplies power to the trailer when connected, not the reverse. The tow vehicle supplies power to the brakes of the tow vehicle when the brakes are applied during normal operation. If the trailer separates from the tow vehicle while towing, obviously the cord will break loose and the breakaway switch will operate and if the trailer's battery is functioning, the brakes of the trailer will be set independent of the tow vehicle. Where is the power in the cord coming from when not connected to the tow vehicle?
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Exactly what I thought. I started reading the thread and when someone said there was power to the tow cord after being unhooked from the TV I just figured everyone had been snowed in too long and drinking way too much longer! So I put down my steaming cup of coffee and went out into the morning elements to check (75 degrees and sunny). There is power to the cable! Crap! Just when I thought I was beginning to figure this fiver thing out. Now I have to figure out a cover for the end of the cable that won't hold water.
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03-04-2014, 04:33 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Navarre
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Scott,
I believe I posted a cure for the problem on page 1 so you need not re-invent the wheel.
Mike
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03-04-2014, 05:43 AM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by pineranch
Scott,
I believe I posted a cure for the problem on page 1 so you need not re-invent the wheel.
Mike
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What are you talking about? What was said for you to write that?
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03-04-2014, 06:03 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Frostproof, FL USA
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M.O.C. #13272
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As someone suggested already, I think I will just cut out a tennis ball and put over it. I may drill some additional holes just to make sure there is no water collecting inside. I just hate to order something on-line if I can live without it.
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03-04-2014, 06:03 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Navarre
Posts: 1,527
M.O.C. #9765
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Scott, You stated "Now I have to figure out a cover for the end of the cable that won't hold water."
I was mearly pointing you to a solution on the market.
Mike
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03-04-2014, 06:31 AM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by pineranch
Scott, You stated "Now I have to figure out a cover for the end of the cable that won't hold water."
I was mearly pointing you to a solution on the market.
Mike
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That was j and c that made that comment.
Scott
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03-04-2014, 06:55 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Navarre
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M.O.C. #9765
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WOW, I need better drugs, sorry for the mix up
Mike
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03-04-2014, 08:46 AM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by pineranch
WOW, I need better drugs, sorry for the mix up
Mike
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Not a problem...
I thought I needed the better drugs for a minute there! LOL
Scott
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03-05-2014, 01:54 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita
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M.O.C. #13025
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I have found that the best way to do it is learn from OTHERS mistakes.
Thanks to all for posting mishaps so others don't make the same mistake. I think I will do the tennis ball thing.
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03-05-2014, 03:25 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Renton
Posts: 362
M.O.C. #13959
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I'm going to do the blocking diode when the rig arrives. That way I won't lose the tennis ball!
Il post photos and directions when complete, but it will be a few weeks. Thanks for posting this issue. I had no idea this was even a potential problem.
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03-05-2014, 05:31 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Fernley
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DON'T GET DISTRACTED! We just bought a 2014 Montana 3725RL but this lesson is about our first 5ver, a 2001 Fleetwood Terry. I had just backed into our site at Camp Pendleton on the front row with 200 yards of gorgeous sand and the Pacific Ocean for our view. As I lowered the front jacks and started raising the coach, a "friendly" neighbor asked if I needed help lining up straight in my space. I turned and looked from his perspective and saw he was right. My Terry was somewhat crooked. Being a veteran RVer, I said thanks, but I can take care of it. I raised the front landing gear and jumped into the truck to pull forward and get lined up straight. As I pulled forward, I heard this awful crash and felt the Earth move. Hitting the breaks and turning my head, I realized that I had forgotten to reclose the jaws on the hitch before pulling forward. $1400.00 later, the side walls on my truck were once again straight. Fortunately the only damage to the Terry was a broken light fixture. Since then, I always try to remember to take my time and keep my head in the game.
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03-06-2014, 04:17 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 1,311
M.O.C. #5165
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The hot RV plug is the method other MOCers have used to hook up fancy, playful lights on the cord--I don't but others probably have recommendations on this trick!
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03-06-2014, 04:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Chilliwack
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M.O.C. #12935
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In one or more of my previous posts while attempting to determine what power was connected when the battery disconnect is in the disconnect mode I determined this wire is connected to the "hot" side of the first of the two circuit breakers, therefore it is hot at all times and is not protected by a fuse unless yours is different than mine and has an inline fuse.
This is a great spot to test your RV lights and even the brake wires by jumping from the live to the individual posts on the plug. If you put a diode in there you would not be able to do that.
This wire is separate from the emergency break away wire which also has power to it at all times.
I have always tucked mine up in the pin box, it is dry in there and there is precious little that sticks out that might ground that particular pin. If one was concerned you could easily put a split tennis ball over the end as has been suggested.
In my opinion it is not something I am going to worry about but everyone will have their own opinion about that.
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03-06-2014, 05:40 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Renton
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M.O.C. #13959
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Great input on using it for a test point. I hadn't considered that. I've never had a problem, but also didn't know it was hot 24/7. Maybe a tethered cap, or maybe just being more careful knowing it's hot. Thanks for the info Iripguy!
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03-08-2014, 01:01 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 214
M.O.C. #7994
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To stow the unilical cord out of the way and harms way I bought the male receptacle
with the latching cover that is usually secured in the truck bed plus a bracket to which it mounts.
Screwed the bracket to the pin box and before disconnecting the truck I put the cord into the receptacle.
Now it is out of the way, the hot pin cannot be shorted. I just have to be sure that the cord loop doesn't get hung up on some piece of junque in the truck bed.
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