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01-23-2014, 03:30 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: stockton
Posts: 405
M.O.C. #11457
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Frameless Windows
We are looking at a new Mountaineer which has frameless windows. They look nice, but are they as durable and weather resistant?
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 2014 Montana Mountaineer 331 RLT. Winneguard SWM Traveler Satellite Antenna, Progressive 50 amp portable EMS, 6 point Level Up.. 2016 Chevy 3500 Duramax Dually, long bed, B&W Patriot hitch.
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01-23-2014, 03:40 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Fair Oaks
Posts: 320
M.O.C. #6167
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We have had no issues with them on our rig, there has been no water leaks.
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01-23-2014, 04:07 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Galena
Posts: 990
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The only issue I have looking at them, is they only open a few inches at the bottom and you don't get as much air. I don't have them JMO . I really enjoy opening the windows and getting a lot of air. I do like how they look outside. I guess its a trade off or not something that would be issue for many.
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01-23-2014, 04:15 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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We have heard the same comments, less ability to open up and get cross breeze in the fiver.
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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01-23-2014, 04:31 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 534
M.O.C. #13378
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For us the cross breeze isn't an issue since the Fantastic fan creates a huge vacuum inside our Monte, so when we open a window, the breezes magically appear.
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01-23-2014, 07:34 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,669
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True, they don't open as far, but at the same time they keep the rain out. On our 2955 we had the two windows one on each side of the bed slide. They did provide a nice breeze, but had to be closed if it rained.
We now have a large flush mount window at the head of the bed and still get a breeze and doesn't have to be closed if raining.
Like anything, pros and cons to each.
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2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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01-23-2014, 05:05 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Down the Road
Posts: 5,627
M.O.C. #889
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I have the dual pane frameless windows on my coach. I've been in temps down to -22 and as high as 108 with high humidity and the windows performed very well. I never used to be an advocate of the dual pane windows until I ordered the current coach. Now having been on the other side, I would not go back. As already mentioned, the frameless windows dont allow you to open them as far, but between the ceiling fan and the maxxair fans, creating a breeze has not been an issue for me. Just my opinion.
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01-23-2014, 05:32 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Renton
Posts: 362
M.O.C. #13959
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Can't you open the side slide windows up to create that cross breeze? I thought those were regular windows so you couldn't break them off as you stored the slides. I realize there aren't as many, but thought they might be enough???
One more thing, I was told by my dealer that the dual pane windows weren't available because they were having problems with them. I wanted to order them to help quiet the interior, but was told they are unavailable. Comments?
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01-24-2014, 04:15 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Denver
Posts: 409
M.O.C. #7616
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Your dealer was misinformed.
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01-24-2014, 07:59 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Depends on temps
Posts: 1,648
M.O.C. #13157
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Our rig has the frame less windows. I like them. If you are going to order a rig, if available order the dual pane. Same for the small sliders in the slides. Get dual pane there also.
Yes they only open up a small amount, be being able to have them open while raining is nice.
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01-24-2014, 01:54 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Nashville
Posts: 118
M.O.C. #13210
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We have frameless in our 295RKD and love them. Plenty of air and no leaks.. Would not hesitate.
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01-24-2014, 08:17 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Renton
Posts: 362
M.O.C. #13959
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Ramblin Roadrunners
Your dealer was misinformed.
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That's what I thought too, another Tacoma RV missinformation communication.
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01-24-2014, 10:08 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Redding
Posts: 1,421
M.O.C. #12339
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You guys are making me crazy! Beautiful flush windows, LED lighting, new Big Sky's everywhere. My two year old Montana is becoming a Dinosaur ! Lol. Oh and dont even mention those cool front "eyebrow lights"!!! When will it stop?....
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01-25-2014, 02:45 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Artemus Gordon
You guys are making me crazy! Beautiful flush windows, LED lighting, new Big Sky's everywhere. My two year old Montana is becoming a Dinosaur ! Lol. Oh and dont even mention those cool front "eyebrow lights"!!! When will it stop?....
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Sounds like someone is getting the upgrade fever! It is just as debilitating as two-foot-itis that boat owner's are constantly exposed to. There is an antidote available, but it is costly and no health insurance covers it. 
Oh, almost forgot, we absolutely love the look of our frameless windows. We rarely open them anyway but as mentioned since the rig is equipped with four fantastic fans I don't believe air-flow or cross breezes would be an issue.
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01-25-2014, 04:37 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Arnold
Posts: 1,200
M.O.C. #2586
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Frameless windows reduce the old black streaks from the rubber framed windows!
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01-25-2014, 09:00 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: stockton
Posts: 405
M.O.C. #11457
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Thanks for all the input. Now only have to wait for the unit to arrive from the factory!
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2014 Montana Mountaineer 331 RLT. Winneguard SWM Traveler Satellite Antenna, Progressive 50 amp portable EMS, 6 point Level Up.. 2016 Chevy 3500 Duramax Dually, long bed, B&W Patriot hitch.
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01-25-2014, 02:44 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Renton
Posts: 362
M.O.C. #13959
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Artemus Gordon
You guys are making me crazy! Beautiful flush windows, LED lighting, new Big Sky's everywhere. My two year old Montana is becoming a Dinosaur ! Lol. Oh and dont even mention those cool front "eyebrow lights"!!! When will it stop?....
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This is the problem I hear so often... There's only one cure, upgrade! 
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01-25-2014, 03:12 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Lehigh Acres
Posts: 492
M.O.C. #13354
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We have the frameless and love them.
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01-25-2014, 04:06 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Redding
Posts: 1,421
M.O.C. #12339
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I find the non frameless windows look more framed! They look like "old school "! Sarcasm is wonderful. I just wish the made a sarcasm font ?
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