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12-15-2013, 08:05 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Redding
Posts: 1,421
M.O.C. #12339
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Time to buy new RV?
My son the CPA was doing a "cost benifit analysis" of our 2012 3750. Based on my purchased price, comp sales etc. He advises me to sell our fiver, and buy a new one. I buy wholesale, and got a very "low price" on our Montana. It's true wholesale book value today (20% below NADA low book), is greater than we paid cash for the unit. Therefore, I could sell it here in California, for about what we paid for it. Here's the Rub! I don't want a new RV. I would buy a brand new 3750. No real changes, ours was late build, has new frame design. I like the one I have right now! All issues resolved, no PDI, no unforeseen issues! Am I nuts? My son thinks I am crazy not to do it! Anyone else ever feel this way!
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12-15-2013, 11:45 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Waterford
Posts: 3,693
M.O.C. #7500
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It's a tough call. You could end up like Rich who traded in his 06 that had everything working right to get a Big Sky he's had nothing but problems with. Or you could get the new unit and have no problems at all. If there wasn't some feature(s) that you really liked with the new units, why go through the hassle? Plus you'll still have to pay taxes, plates and your insurance may increase.
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12-16-2013, 12:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Posts: 2,727
M.O.C. #7992
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CPA's look at things from a financial/tax advantage view and owners look at things from a humanistic, practicle, comfortable view. The older I get the more appealing the later view becomes. Jim
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2009 Ram 2500
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12-16-2013, 01:25 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 534
M.O.C. #13378
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Here's an old adage I'd be using in this case, "Money isn't everything."
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12-16-2013, 02:04 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Arroyo City
Posts: 3,110
M.O.C. #13395
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If something ain't broke, don't try to fix it
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12-16-2013, 02:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Grand Rapids
Posts: 1,898
M.O.C. #9561
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as dave ramsey says....never buy something new.
i can't see why you'd purchase a new trailer...
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12-16-2013, 02:36 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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Here's why I wouldn't do it. It's taken me two years to get the mods to where they are now and there's still things I'd like to add. We had plenty of offers on our S&B over the years and since we sold during the recession took less than we could have gotten earlier. Would I have traded the years of living in "our" house for more money. No way, and the same is true with our rig. Right now this is "our" rig. When we get tired of it or it gets tired we'll trade. Money isn't the best way, IMHO, of deciding where you live even if you only live there part time.
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2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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12-16-2013, 02:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 4,200
M.O.C. #11401
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Well, I recently had this same dilemma, and decided to trade. The deal was good and as I had not had any signicant issues with the last one (tires only real problem). I have had little trouble with new one so far. Also enjoy the few mods I've done. We really like this new 3900 floor plan and are looking forward to years of enjoyment.
Larry
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12-16-2013, 02:42 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Elgin
Posts: 262
M.O.C. #11570
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I agree with Tom S. Why trade-in something you've struggled to get working right just for a new unknown.
My wife's favorite saying when we buy one of these units new is that
We Buy A Straw House From Keystone & We turn It Into A Brick House Ourselves.
The corrupted thinking of the young generation is that everything new is better. What a joke.
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12-16-2013, 02:52 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Denver
Posts: 409
M.O.C. #7616
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There are new changes, tweaking of existing models and up grades coming in January. Some beefing up to the axles and brakes and a 3rd paint added to the Big Sky.
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12-16-2013, 02:56 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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As you know, we recently traded a fairly new rig for another. Our decision was based on some primary factors (paint, bathroom availability, storage, frame, etc.) that we feel improved the livability of our new choice. I would not be able to justify trading for the same rig after three years, but as with everything, the choice ultimately is a personal one. I do not feel that the age of the current unit, changes that have been made to it (we do mods constantly it seems to whatever rig we have), or other factors were of importance during our decision making process. The primary reason should be that whatever choice you make is the one that you and your DW will like and will not regret at some point going forward. Your satisfaction is the end result that is desired, whether it be the current rig or a new one. We are extremely satisfied with the choice we made.
Bingo
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Bingo and Cathy - Our adventures begin in the hills of WV. We are blessed by our 2014 3850FL Big Sky (previous 2011 3750FL and 2007 3400RL) that we pull with a 2007 Chevy Silverado Classic DRW CC dually.
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12-16-2013, 02:57 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: _
Posts: 5,238
M.O.C. #6337
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I have to say, I sure wish I had the cash flow to have this problem. And, that I am glad others do so they keep the RV manufacturers in business and around until I can see my way clear to maybe buy a new one. Right now, we are going to be taking on a bit of a financial challenge in helping a family member get back on his feet, literally, so he can function again. We just pray the recovery does not lead to surgery, difficult back surgery. Well, I guess a lottery win might help both situations. I hear there is a biggie coming up this week??
May your Maker bring you all you need and desire.
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12-16-2013, 03:20 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Keep it. Nobody ever said this things are investments anyway. Your logic makes perfect sense to me.
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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12-16-2013, 04:22 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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Keep it.
Had dinner with Dennis Mason and family last night. he has a newer than Mine Big sky/ We talked a lot about problems. .He has already had a holding tank fail.
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12-16-2013, 05:25 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Fort Myers
Posts: 5,933
M.O.C. #4282
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I don't think anyone here got into RVing to make any money with it...
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12-16-2013, 07:36 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Washington Coast
Posts: 2,688
M.O.C. #10696
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It would be a Bonehead maneuver for me ,I bought mine for 59K in 2012 WITH a 6 yr extended warranty and if I bought a new one I know I would do something crazy and get the BIG SKY pkg and spend 70-80K and that would add more debt load to my credit rating AND I have done improvements , better Furniture,All LED ,New fixture's etc... NAHHHHHHHHH but like was said before if I won the lottery What the Hay but wait if I won the lottery I would buy a New Horizons or Excel or something not a Montana
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12-16-2013, 08:34 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Depends on temps
Posts: 1,648
M.O.C. #13157
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If it is not broke, don't work on it.
Years ago my CPA said I needed to shelter some income. Buy some rental property's. OK, bought several 3/2 brick homes for rentals.
Last time I listened to him.....
Jim
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2012 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 4x4 3.73 Tow Max Pkg B&W Companion 60 gal RDS aux fuel tank. 2014 Montana 3150RL, 2 A/C's, Leather, 6 Point Jacks, Splendede WD2100XC, Mor/ryde X-Factor, Duravis 250 tires with TST 507RV monitors. 2 x Honda EU2000's
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12-16-2013, 09:22 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Redding
Posts: 1,421
M.O.C. #12339
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Thanks to all of you! I feel better and for now the 3750 is going to continue to be our second home!
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12-16-2013, 09:48 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Rock Island
Posts: 1,074
M.O.C. #10457
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Sometimes we trade just because we want to, but always like to calculate both financial and emotional reasons for our choices. Sales people get so aggravated (at me) because most want a quick decision based on emotions. Don't know exactly where that vague point in time is for trading based on depreciation or trade in value, but it's probably a bit longer than 5 years. Before that unless you just want to upgrade or make a change in features such as size, quality, and technology, or on the negative poor performance or disliked floor plan, then there is no financial reason to trade.
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12-17-2013, 05:19 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Hillsboro
Posts: 593
M.O.C. #8238
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Absolutely agree about the financial side of it. We're just getting our third Montana in 6 years. First, in 2008 we chose the 3400 plan and liked it. Then in 2011 we saw the "new" 3400 Hickory edition with many more improvements, so we traded up. Would not be trading/changing now, except saw the 3725 floor plan, the level ups, different bathroom, plus many, many more features, and here we go again. Purely a personal choice, definitely not a financial one. Like a new car, the second it leaves the lot, the value drops......substantially. Well, I guess I can't totally say it's not financial....the interest rates now are so low that even with the trade/upgrade, our monthly obligation will be less on the new one than it was on the old one.
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Vietnam Veteran, US Navy
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2015 GMC Sierra 4X4 3500 SRW
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