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08-26-2013, 10:34 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Baton Rouge
Posts: 431
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i agree with OZZ on the two 15k ACs (mainly because he is THE A/C brain-trust-guru extraordinaire), but also in our experience with a 3075RL either is sufficient to cool the trailer in most cases. So we are able to switch from one to the other when we want quiet in LR or BR. We very seldom use both units; but when we do, its a frost-blast-quick cool-down.
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08-26-2013, 10:58 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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Ahhh, so you are a loud horn guy...
I love horns, maybe in a past life I was an animal with them??
Check this out:
Ozz
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08-26-2013, 11:02 AM
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#43
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Austin
Posts: 48
M.O.C. #13710
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Ozz
Ahhh, so you are a loud horn guy...
I love horns, maybe in a past life I was an animal with them??
Check this out:
Ozz
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I don't have any video but I can tell you it hurts and will rattle the fillings in your teeth and you will need to change your drawers if the alarm goes off and your next to them.
LG
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08-26-2013, 11:15 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Austin
Posts: 48
M.O.C. #13710
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by fauch
i agree with OZZ on the two 15k ACs (mainly because he is THE A/C brain-trust-guru extraordinaire), but also in our experience with a 3075RL either is sufficient to cool the trailer in most cases. So we are able to switch from one to the other when we want quiet in LR or BR. We very seldom use both units; but when we do, its a frost-blast-quick cool-down.
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It appears that I agree with your description of Ozz.
The dude has mad skills !
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08-26-2013, 11:16 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 4,200
M.O.C. #11401
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If you intend to pull a new Montana 3400, you should consider weight, as it weighs 12533 pounds dry weight (from factory specs).That is before you add anything. Someone here mentioned a HC (High Country). the heaviest HC made is 9090 pounds, much lighter and only 36 feet l0ng, and the 3400 is 38ft3ins. its not about what you can move around with a truck, but about what you can control in an emergency, or panic stop. in the last 2 days, a legal opinion was posted on the MOC, I suggest you read that. in the end its up to you, just be sure to consider all the facts.
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08-26-2013, 11:26 AM
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#46
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Austin
Posts: 48
M.O.C. #13710
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by HOOK
If you intend to pull a new Montana 3400, you should consider weight, as it weighs 12533 pounds dry weight (from factory specs).That is before you add anything. Someone here mentioned a HC (High Country). the heaviest HC made is 9090 pounds, much lighter and only 36 feet l0ng, and the 3400 is 38ft3ins. its not about what you can move around with a truck, but about what you can control in an emergency, or panic stop. in the last 2 days, a legal opinion was posted on the MOC, I suggest you read that. in the end its up to you, just be sure to consider all the facts.
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Hi Hook,
where can I find the article you mentioned.
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08-26-2013, 12:36 PM
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#47
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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It is under tow vehicles and towing 1/2 ton tow.
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08-26-2013, 12:49 PM
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#48
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Benson
Posts: 3,122
M.O.C. #1658
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08-26-2013, 01:29 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Austin
Posts: 48
M.O.C. #13710
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Interesting read. I real eye opener.
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08-26-2013, 04:03 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Fort Myers
Posts: 5,933
M.O.C. #4282
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The difference between my 2500HD and my new 3500HD are night and day in the way they feel w/o even pulling anything. The 3500 just feels like a moose under me. I couldn't go back to a 2500. Even more important.. my wife loves driving it (but not pulling yet).
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08-26-2013, 04:17 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Depends on temps
Posts: 1,648
M.O.C. #13157
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The mention of upgrading a F250 to larger wheels etc, means nothing. The truck is rated by the GVWR plate installed by the manufacture.
The problem with most SRW trucks is rear axle capacity. Yes, in the book they show they will pull more than a DRW, this is because of the weight of the truck, but in the real world they can not carry the pin weight of a large 5th.
A 3400RL needs a DRW truck under it.
If you are in Alaska and need a cab and chassis truck to put a bed on, then Mo, Ar, OK, TX are prime locations for these. Just need to decide on brand and then call the Zone Office for the area and brand you are looking for.
Jim
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2012 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 4x4 3.73 Tow Max Pkg B&W Companion 60 gal RDS aux fuel tank. 2014 Montana 3150RL, 2 A/C's, Leather, 6 Point Jacks, Splendede WD2100XC, Mor/ryde X-Factor, Duravis 250 tires with TST 507RV monitors. 2 x Honda EU2000's
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08-26-2013, 04:35 PM
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#52
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Austin
Posts: 48
M.O.C. #13710
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by jlb27537
The mention of upgrading a F250 to larger wheels etc, means nothing. The truck is rated by the GVWR plate installed by the manufacture.
The problem with most SRW trucks is rear axle capacity. Yes, in the book they show they will pull more than a DRW, this is because of the weight of the truck, but in the real world they can not carry the pin weight of a large 5th.
A 3400RL needs a DRW truck under it.
If you are in Alaska and need a cab and chassis truck to put a bed on, then Mo, Ar, OK, TX are prime locations for these. Just need to decide on brand and then call the Zone Office for the area and brand you are looking for.
Jim
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Hi Jim,
I agree with you. I am evaluating all my options as we speak.
I appreciate everyone's viewpoint. I am learning so much !
Thanks
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08-27-2013, 06:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Hollister
Posts: 1,043
M.O.C. #10764
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If you do the math correctly, you need more truck.
Dometic
No combo wd.
Onan propane 5500
Hitch...Valley
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08-29-2013, 03:31 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Have pulled all my rigs with SRW until 2011. Never again!
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Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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08-29-2013, 04:33 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Austin
Posts: 48
M.O.C. #13710
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by 1retired06
Have pulled all my rigs with SRW until 2011. Never again!
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Hello,
Experience matters and I value everyone's help in educating me.
Thank you.
Louie
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08-29-2013, 04:36 AM
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#56
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Austin
Posts: 48
M.O.C. #13710
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Hello,
I just purchased a like new 2007 Montana with the equipment list below. Could anyone please tell me the use and benefit of the hydraulic selector valves, winterazation and air mattress HAB 
Thank you.
Louie
Decor - Montana: Sapphire
Moving To Montana Package
Value Package
Arctic Insulation Package
27" LCD Television
Central Vacuum
Washer Dryer Prep
Ceiling Fan
Hydraulic Selector Valves
Fireplace
Fantastic Vent Fan - Kitchen
Wire & Frame for 2nd Air Conditioner
Aluminum Wheels
Air mattress HAB
Free Standing Dinette and 4 Chairs
End Table and Lamp
High Back Desk Chair
King Bed
State Seal: blank/none
Winterization
RVIA Seal - Go Camping
Go RVing MEP Fee: blank/none
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08-29-2013, 05:56 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: K.C.
Posts: 11,731
M.O.C. #5980
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Congrats Louie!
I have a 3400RL, 2007
I got no air mattress in mine, so can't help on that.
Sometimes we go to the rest stop and I only want to put out one slide, so we shut off the others with the valves, they are marked, but you have to use a mirror to read them on mine. I took a Sharpie and labeled them so I could read them without.
If you are going to the great state of Texas, I would slap on a 15K air conditioner for the second one.
I would also suggest an automatic rooftop mounted antenna, love ours, great for a lazy bum like me. A water softener is super as well some of that Texas water is hard as an anvil.
Use the search engine and find winterizing, it may be in the front of the Montana Forum as well.
Good luck on your trip down from Alaska, travel safe.
Ozz
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08-29-2013, 06:15 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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I may be wrong, but I think HAB is the abbreviations for Hide-a-bed. Previous 2007 models (our previous one) came with the foam mattress on the fold out bed in the sofa. Subsequent models came with an air bed that was stored in a drawer at the bottom of the sofa. The winterization feature is in the convenience center and allows the on-board pump to draw antifreeze from the gallon jugs (you have to have a short section of hose to attach to it) or allows air to be injected into the system with a low pressure pump. In addition to switching the winterization valve on, you also have to switch the water heater bypass valve, so you don't waste antifreeze in the heater. The water heater can be drained by removing the anode rod at the bottom. Oh, and lastly, it is really, really depressing to read winterization posts in August!! 
Bingo
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Bingo and Cathy - Our adventures begin in the hills of WV. We are blessed by our 2014 3850FL Big Sky (previous 2011 3750FL and 2007 3400RL) that we pull with a 2007 Chevy Silverado Classic DRW CC dually.
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08-29-2013, 09:58 AM
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#59
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Austin
Posts: 48
M.O.C. #13710
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Ozz
Congrats Louie!
I have a 3400RL, 2007
I got no air mattress in mine, so can't help on that.
Sometimes we go to the rest stop and I only want to put out one slide, so we shut off the others with the valves, they are marked, but you have to use a mirror to read them on mine. I took a Sharpie and labeled them so I could read them without.
If you are going to the great state of Texas, I would slap on a 15K air conditioner for the second one.
I would also suggest an automatic rooftop mounted antenna, love ours, great for a lazy bum like me. A water softener is super as well some of that Texas water is hard as an anvil.
Use the search engine and find winterizing, it may be in the front of the Montana Forum as well.
Good luck on your trip down from Alaska, travel safe.
Ozz
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Thanks Ozz !
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08-29-2013, 10:00 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Austin
Posts: 48
M.O.C. #13710
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by bncinwv
I may be wrong, but I think HAB is the abbreviations for Hide-a-bed. Previous 2007 models (our previous one) came with the foam mattress on the fold out bed in the sofa. Subsequent models came with an air bed that was stored in a drawer at the bottom of the sofa. The winterization feature is in the convenience center and allows the on-board pump to draw antifreeze from the gallon jugs (you have to have a short section of hose to attach to it) or allows air to be injected into the system with a low pressure pump. In addition to switching the winterization valve on, you also have to switch the water heater bypass valve, so you don't waste antifreeze in the heater. The water heater can be drained by removing the anode rod at the bottom. Oh, and lastly, it is really, really depressing to read winterization posts in August!!
Bingo
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Thank you Bingo !
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