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08-12-2013, 04:25 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Depends on temps
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6 PT Level Sys. popping
Hello Group.
We have a 2014 3150RL and the 6 Pt level sys. We are parked for 2 months @ 9400'. We are experiencing a popping sound from the jacks and when you are in bed at night can feel the trailer dropping and the jacks popping. It may only drop 1/8" but in bed you can feel it.
There is no oil leak showing on any jacks.
I am thinking the internal piston seal is leaking by and causing the pop sound and the felt drop in the trailer.
There is a temp change from 70's to 30's so about 40 degrees. The popping seems worse at night.
We have retracted the rear side jacks and have lowered the front and done the auto level again, but no change. After a couple of days the popping at night resumes.
I am considering removing the fluid and replacing it with a different hydraulic fluid that is more "slippery" so when it does what it does there is no "popping".
Your thoughts or does anyone have a TSB on the issue?
Thanks Jim
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2012 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 4x4 3.73 Tow Max Pkg B&W Companion 60 gal RDS aux fuel tank. 2014 Montana 3150RL, 2 A/C's, Leather, 6 Point Jacks, Splendede WD2100XC, Mor/ryde X-Factor, Duravis 250 tires with TST 507RV monitors. 2 x Honda EU2000's
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08-12-2013, 04:29 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Arroyo City
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M.O.C. #13395
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There have been many post on that subject, there is even a fix recommended by Liepert
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08-12-2013, 04:42 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,724
M.O.C. #4831
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There is a recent discussion on this "feature" and a link to the Lippert TSB of their suggested correction.
Discussion is at:
http://www.montanaowners.com/forums/...ad.php?t=54580
Lippert Bulletin:
http://www.lci1.com/images/Flyers/LIPSheets/leveling/0295-Adding-Anti-Stiction-Fluid-to-LCI-Hydraulic-Systems.pdf
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There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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08-12-2013, 05:13 PM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #13157
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Thanks Guys, What I was thinking. Jim
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2012 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 4x4 3.73 Tow Max Pkg B&W Companion 60 gal RDS aux fuel tank. 2014 Montana 3150RL, 2 A/C's, Leather, 6 Point Jacks, Splendede WD2100XC, Mor/ryde X-Factor, Duravis 250 tires with TST 507RV monitors. 2 x Honda EU2000's
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08-12-2013, 06:16 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
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Before the fix came out, however, most of us just waited and it went away with time.
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2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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08-13-2013, 02:57 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Dayton
Posts: 59
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We had the 6 point leveling system put on 1 week ago (5th) and the installer at Lippert made special mention during the system check out that they put in the additive already. Since we are still in the initial phases of cycling the oil through the system, we still have tiny bubbles, but they said over time that those would clear out.
We haven't heard any popping noises (yet)
Really love the system though!
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08-13-2013, 04:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
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M.O.C. #13157
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Joe, The Lippert TSB shows 3 different brands of fluid additive. Do you know what product they used in your installation?
Did they use 100% of one of the suggested products or just add a qt and then used a hydraulic fluid for the remaining fill?
Thanks Jim
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2012 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 4x4 3.73 Tow Max Pkg B&W Companion 60 gal RDS aux fuel tank. 2014 Montana 3150RL, 2 A/C's, Leather, 6 Point Jacks, Splendede WD2100XC, Mor/ryde X-Factor, Duravis 250 tires with TST 507RV monitors. 2 x Honda EU2000's
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08-13-2013, 04:58 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Harford
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We picked up our 2013 3100RL and went on a three jaunt to Lancaster, PA. We were getting the popping noise at night. We returned home and did not use the system again until the Mid-Atlantic Rally. We noticed that there was no more noise.
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08-13-2013, 06:11 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Rock Island
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I thin our popping may have stopped. Its one of those things that kinda gets lost in the events of the day, and is only remembered if it reoccurs.
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08-20-2013, 09:35 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Redding
Posts: 1,421
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I don't notice it anymore! But, FYI two of my landing gear have been replaced, due to leaking of fluid! I use my Montana weekly and not for full timing. The up and down etc. has caused a few problems, admittedly, not seen by many dealers! We put a lot of miles in 17 months and it has resulted in slide repairs, 6 point levling etc. We camp every week somewhere, on all kinds of surfaces. Keystone should "give me a test unit" because we are unusual users. We are not hard on the unit, but it's constantly in use, daily set ups and tear downs! Note: so far Good Sam's have covered the replacement units! They (leveling components) are expensive and not perfect! Even had landing pad break in Virginia KOA gravel camp site! I love the system, but I carry extra hydraulic fluid on every trip, and pay attention for fluid leaks on top of jack landing pads!
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08-21-2013, 03:12 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Arroyo City
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M.O.C. #13395
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I think mine has quit popping on its own
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08-21-2013, 03:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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same here have not heard popping for a long time. Did add the recommended fluid.
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