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05-09-2013, 05:37 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Cheyenne
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M.O.C. #13244
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Tires on new 2013 Montana
We just bought a new 3150 built in October so it has the 12 inch frame etc. I keep reading about tire problems with Montanas, ours has GY Marathon E rated tires, should I be concerned?
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05-09-2013, 05:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
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Yes!!! is my opinion on the matter, which is why they came off our rig before it left the dealer's lot! They are fondly referred to on most forums as Marabombs for a reason.
Bingo
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05-09-2013, 05:52 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Carrier Mills
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In a nut shell, YES!!!!!!! For your leisurely reading, go to the search page and type in Marathon China Bombs..........that will convince you.
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05-09-2013, 05:54 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
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M.O.C. #6846
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Link no workee for meee!
Bingo
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05-09-2013, 06:06 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Carrier Mills
Posts: 143
M.O.C. #10587
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Bingo, it no workee for me either............. LOL I changed my post to delete the link. Not sure what went wrong.
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05-09-2013, 10:14 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
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Swap them out!
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
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05-09-2013, 10:55 AM
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Site Team
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Location: Wilsey
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I would change them. If you'd like a copy of an article that's gone around the internet for years explaining why, just email me: dqdick10432@yahoo.com
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05-09-2013, 11:59 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
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A lot of people have put on a lot of miles with no problems from the Chinese tires. By the way, it's not just Goodyear Marathon that's suspect. It's all tires made in China.
We have had numerous blowouts with Marathon, Mission, and Freestar tires, all made in China. It's only when we switched to a quality US-made tire that our tire problems went away.
I suspect part of the problem is the tires have ratings that exceed their actual capabilities. Over-rated, in other words.
If your rig is light enough that you don't exceed somewhere between 50% and 75% of the weight rating stamped on the sidewall AND you are a weekend camper and occasional vacationer, then I'd probably stay with the Marathons until they prove to me they are unworthy. If your rig runs heavier than that or you put on significantly more miles than that, then I'd probably swap them out.
It never hurts to be safe and go to a better tire. But if the cost is a concern, as it is for many of us, then I'd evaluate my situation and decide how much risk I'm willing to take.
Safety is always a concern but I do want to say that with every single blowout we've had, blowout and ordinary flat tire, there were only three ways we knew we had a problem back there.
1) We heard the pop of the blowout (sometimes we did, sometimes we didn't)
2) Someone pulled alongside and signaled us. We never felt a thing.
3) We happened to see a bubble on the side of the tire while in an rv park.
I'm not suggesting anyone cause themselves any risk. I'm just saying there are some situations where the Marathons will probably be just fine. Our situation is not one of those, however.
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05-09-2013, 02:44 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 908
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Steve has some good points, but IMHO, if made in China, you'll have problems.
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05-09-2013, 03:22 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Redmond
Posts: 274
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We went up in size and load range. For sure do your research on this forum.
Also use the Keystone rv forum.
One thing I learned from all of these great folks willing to help is safety first.
This group is a great resource and we early RV'ers, at least in my case, can learn from their experiences.
Stay safe and happy travels!
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05-09-2013, 04:50 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Crossville
Posts: 184
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I have a new 2012 Montana and I have been debating the same question...change or not to change. With my previous SOB 5ver I ran the OEM Karrier Loadstars (china made) for five years and 18,000 miles without incidence. I changed them out because of cracking but tread was still good. Due to all of the horror stories on various forums, I also had the same paranoia with the tires on that rig. During that period all the forums was discussing the blowouts with Missions, Loadstars and other "China Bombs". I took the risk and kept running the tires and it worked out. So now my dilemma is should I take the risk again with the Marathons.
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05-09-2013, 04:59 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
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M.O.C. #6846
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I had a flat with Missions. I had a flat on either Lodestar or Freestar, can't remember which but it was what Tireco replaced the Missions with. I have not had a flat with the Marathons simply because they came off at the dealer. I have had the 614's for going on two years now without a problem. Just my experience.
Bingo
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05-09-2013, 05:43 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 20,028
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by vangoes
I have a new 2012 Montana and I have been debating the same question...change or not to change. With my previous SOB 5ver I ran the OEM Karrier Loadstars (china made) for five years and 18,000 miles without incidence. I changed them out because of cracking but tread was still good. Due to all of the horror stories on various forums, I also had the same paranoia with the tires on that rig. During that period all the forums was discussing the blowouts with Missions, Loadstars and other "China Bombs". I took the risk and kept running the tires and it worked out. So now my dilemma is should I take the risk again with the Marathons.
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The 3455SA is a pretty heavy rig, as Montanas go, isn't it? If it were me I'd be very leery of Chinese tires on that model. But that's just me and my scars.
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05-11-2013, 12:08 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: New Bern
Posts: 4,390
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Get rid of them. I now run Michelin LTX's on both the truck and trailer.
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05-11-2013, 01:00 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Madison
Posts: 163
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Trailer Life, June 2013. Well-Rounded guide to trailer tires. ST vs. LT. I was not convinced, nice try. Author states, We are going to go with the recommendations of the trailer makers and the tire industry. MY choice is, LT Michelin XPS Rib. We'll see? I have a feeling history is on my side.
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05-11-2013, 04:46 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,690
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I would say if you are going camping up in the Shirley Basin or up on Union Pass at Dubois fishing like I do you will probably be OK with your Chinabombs if you don't drive too fast, but to be on the safe side get rid of them. There has been far too many members here that took out the side of their camper with these tires.
Lynwood
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05-12-2013, 07:14 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
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Lynwood, I've posted this picture numerous times, but, for your benefit, here's what a $2200 blowout of a Chinese tire can look like. Not to mention that the residue of the blowout was blown across five lanes of San Diego freeway (I-8, westbound, east of the Waring Road exit). Traffic was heavy. We were very fortunate there were no accidents caused by cars dodging the flying parts. A very helpful CHP officer retrieved all the broken parts off the freeway.
This one is after the officer threw the pieces onto the shoulder. It shows the kind of traffic at the time the parts went flying. I happened to be looking in the mirror and saw it blow.
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05-12-2013, 12:50 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Athol
Posts: 119
M.O.C. #10293
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I would replace them ASAP. I had about 13K on my marabombs, started reading the forms, got concerned, and changed them out for Goodrich LT Commercials. When changing, found that two marabomb treads had started to separate. Close call.
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05-12-2013, 02:18 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,690
M.O.C. #2283
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Thanks Steve a picture is worth the side of a camper.
Lynwood
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05-12-2013, 02:48 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Salisbury
Posts: 561
M.O.C. #6935
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I will be changing mine out as soon as I get back from Charleston, SC. Mine are only six month old, but I had just put new Michelins on my old Monte last year. My mechanic is scheduled to swap them out in two weeks.
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