Artic Package

[exav8tr]

I can honestly say that we experience little or no drafts coming from our slides or any other corners of our '06 3400RL. We were built in early '06 as Richfaa. Maybe we had a different crew building ours. Do not agree that these units leak like a sieve. We did have sub freezing weather here in AZ a few weeks back so I had recent experience with this.

[CamillaMichael]

quote:Originally posted by exav8tr

I can honestly say that we experience little or no drafts coming from our slides or any other corners of our '06 3400RL. We were built in early '06 as Richfaa. Maybe we had a different crew building ours. Do not agree that these units leak like a sieve. We did have sub freezing weather here in AZ a few weeks back so I had recent experience with this.

Phil, I was just thinking about the posts herein I have read from members who suffer from drafts and scratch my head and say "what drafts?" Wonder if maybe there is an issue with their units needing to have their slides adjusted????? The Owner's Manual says the slides will need periodic adjustment...just a thought. Michael

[exav8tr]

Michael, that could be or they were built on a Monday, Monday, Can't trust that day. Vintage Mamas and Papas tune!!!!

[CamillaMichael]

quote:Originally posted by exav8tr

Michael, that could be or they were built on a Monday, Monday, Can't trust that day. Vintage Mamas and Papas tune!!!!

You are probably right, Phil....

[Hooker]

We find that the wind made a big difference in the comfort level of our 3400RL. When windy, it was very drafty, when not windy, just cold. Maybe it was the 'Monday' thing!

[richfaa]

Check those corners Camilla right were the seals overlap. We have had our slides adjusted twice and when we inquired about the leaks at the corners we were advised on how to insulate against the leaks but not a remedy to prevent them.

[CamillaMichael]

quote:Originally posted by richfaa

Check those corners Camilla right were the seals overlap. We have had our slides adjusted twice and when we inquired about the leaks at the corners we were advised on how to insulate against the leaks but not a remedy to prevent them.

Rich, as I have posted before, we have some daylight showing at the bottom edges of the kitchen slide...a couple of pieces of foam insulation took care of that...nothing around the other three slides (top or bottom). Guess we are fortunate, and happy for that; however, it still takes a fair amount of energy to heat our 3400 when the temps are low. Michael

[richfaa]

That same kitchen area was the primary offender on our 3400.We also found that when we pulled back the edge of the overlap we were inside the camper. In a wind that air seeps through. In this recent
Florida cold spell we used 4 tanks of propane 7 days. But these are rv's not intended for the use some of us put them to. On a space comparison basis it cost us 5 times the amount to heat out stick and brick home. I am not complaining I kndew these thing did not do well in cold weather which is why we try to stay out of it..

[Hooker]

Our new MH has an Aqua Hot system...very interesting (and warm), check it out: http://aquahot.com/eSource/ecom/eSou...t/RV_Home.aspx

[Rondo]

Charlie-- sounds like a great system but a little inconvenient for a fiver! Not many of us carry a diesel tank on the fiver for the Aqua Hot system to run off of! Since it keeps the block warm also is just another extra add-on too.I've thought about the wall mount, on demand units for the stick but have found out that the maintanence on then after two years or so is high. You need to have a specialist come out yearly to ream the pipes out because they corrode up with calicium and etc and that's about a $300 bill a year! I think I'll stay with the regular high efficiency units I have now.

[Hooker]

quote:Originally posted by Rondo

Charlie-- sounds like a great system but a little inconvenient for a fiver! Not many of us carry a diesel tank on the fiver for the Aqua Hot system to run off of! Since it keeps the block warm also is just another extra add-on too.I've thought about the wall mount, on demand units for the stick but have found out that the maintanence on then after two years or so is high. You need to have a specialist come out yearly to ream the pipes out because they corrode up with calicium and etc and that's about a $300 bill a year! I think I'll stay with the regular high efficiency units I have now.

The Aqua Hot is designed only for a Class A diesel. One of the big advantages is that when you are driving, engine heat runs the Aqua Hot, so the entire coach is warm and you are not running the generator or using propane.

Regarding an earlier comment about lots of complaints about Montanas...one reason is there are so many Montanas on the road there are going to be more complaints.

[CamillaMichael]

quote:Originally posted by Hooker

The Aqua Hot is designed only for a Class A diesel. One of the big advantages is that when you are driving, engine heat runs the Aqua Hot, so the entire coach is warm and you are not running the generator or using propane.

Regarding an earlier comment about lots of complaints about Montanas...one reason is there are so many Montanas on the road there are going to be more complaints.

Regarding complaints, I would like to think the law of numbers is actually the explanation....

[Wild Horse]

Well, we've been consistently below freezing for the past, oh, 3 weeks with a 4 day stint dropping wind chills into the single digits/low teens. We even had two days with winds steady at 25, gusts to 45. We haven't felt hardly a draft yet (more from the front door), and have used a propane tank about every 2-1/2 weeks. We run the fireplace, a ceramic heater in kitchen and sometimes the oscillating heater in the bedroom only at night. Furnace rarely kicks on. I have been geared up to put up skirting and the fleece drapes I made...skirting ain't gonna happen, and the drapes will probably go up just because I spend so dang much time sewing them up ! The only other thing I did was I put door weatherstripping around each of the slides where they meet the walls...and I have 4 slides. I also put up insulating pads into the vents/skylights.
Bill

[jpkelpe]

we have been in cold weather since leaving Omaha on Dec 15. The Monty has actually been very comfortable and we had 13-15 degrees in the morning 3 days in a row. Now we have been in 20's at night for the last week. The floors of the slides are cooler but we have not notices any drafts. Highs have been in the 30's and yesterday was very windy--20-25 mph. I think the Hickory editions really were made for colder weather.

[richfaa]

We are in Florida..I think. just installed our 6th tank of propane for December that is @ one tank every 4 days and we will use another before the month is out. That will be over 147.00 in propane not to mention the electric bill. It is @ 50 degrees now but the wind is fierce and cold. Don't know what the wind speed is the local weather says 22/25mph gust to 30/35. The flag across the street is near starched to starched and it takes some effort to open the camper door,

Our windy when breezy package is working perfectly. The slides are colder and socks are required. The camper is rocking in the gust. We are however warm and toasty from the knees up. We have the tower ceramic heater set at 74 degrees here in the rear and the inside temp is 72 degrees. Oh well it will be back in the 70's later in the week and mouse money will more than pay for the utilities.

It is 29 at home with a lot of snow on the ground with more expected and the wind is blustery which means snow drifts will pile around the house.. Florida is not all that bad.

[granet]

Hello fellow winter campers-this is what I use in the foothills of the Canadian Rockies - I'm fully skirted with 3" of rigid foam board completely surrounding the unit-behind the skirting that is -all exposed walls are double coated with foil bubble insulation and all vents are stuffed with r30 fibre-glass- we are toasty warm living here full-time and have been very comfortable at-47C that's about the same in F. The arctic package works but you have to tweak it a bit!
Regards
Granet
Ps Don't be afraid to use your fireplace -its not just there for ambiance -it really helps to cut down on cold spots you might have missed!

[richfaa]

-47C would be about -52.6 F. You did far more than tweek the artic package you made a package that really works. How did you insulate thy slides and the rubber seals around the slides. How do you keep the propane flowing. That is really cold.....good job in keeping warm.

[Hooker]

Point of interest, -40 degrees C and -40 degrees F are the same temperature.

[richfaa]

Point of interest, -40 degrees C and -40 degrees F are the same temperature.

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Charlie



That is true ?????

[Lee F.]

Yes it is. try this: http://www.wbuf.noaa.gov/tempfc.htm