High Gloss changes [:(] - Page 2 - Montana Owners Club

H. John Kohl · 09-04-2006, 04:04 AM

Carol,
We had to come back for medical treatment for my wife. She was diagnosed with lung cancer on the 27th of July and 4 Aug we were in the states. She starts treatment on Tuesday for six weeks. We are accepting all prayers and well wishes.
Cheers,

John, Master Sergeant USMC/RET 66-86 2651

Kohl's Pictures
03 Ram 3500, 4x4, 6 spd, 3.73, Jacobs exhaust brake, Jordan Controler, Line-X bed liner, Taylor Wing boxes, Xtang Black Max tonneau cover, Kenwood D-700, APRS KO4A-13 Where are the Kohl"s?
02 3295RK Big Sky, dual air, 3.5KW generator, IC 706 Mk II G, Kenwood TMV-7A
Rig stored in NY, waiting July 07 return from working in Australia

CountryGuy · 09-04-2006, 04:08 AM

Request acknowledged, you have been added to our prayer list! Keep us posted.

Carol

Parrothead · 09-04-2006, 05:15 AM

John
Prayers are out for your wife's speedy recovery and also thinking of her during the treatment process.
Happy trails.....................

Sue and Ed Rowe
Hemet California

2005 3400RL

2006 GMC 3500 Dually, D/A, Crew Cab, Long Bed

H. John Kohl · 09-04-2006, 10:01 AM

Thanks,
I do not want to hijack this thread. It is important to me and I sure wish there was a way to get Montana's attention.
Cheer

John, Master Sergeant USMC/RET 66-86 2651

Kohl's Pictures
03 Ram 3500, 4x4, 6 spd, 3.73, Jacobs exhaust brake, Jordan Controler, Line-X bed liner, Taylor Wing boxes, Xtang Black Max tonneau cover, Kenwood D-700, APRS KO4A-13 Where are the Kohl"s?
02 3295RK Big Sky, dual air, 3.5KW generator, IC 706 Mk II G, Kenwood TMV-7A
Rig stored in NY, waiting July 07 return from working in Australia

CountryGuy · 09-04-2006, 10:12 AM

John,

Have been told by people at the plant that they do read this forum. They also have been known to make changes because of things that we found that we felt were stupid. This is the place to let em know!

Cheers,

Carol

Old GI · 09-04-2006, 10:33 AM

Hey Marine, your wife and you are in our Prayers, stay the course.

Pete, Waltraud (Wally), Brian(Grandson) and Hannah (Big German Shepherd).
2005 Ford F-350 Lariat DRW FX4 Crew Cab 6.0 Turbo Diesel, w/tow boss package, dual batteries and alternators. Reese 16K fifth wheel and a 2005 Montana 2955RL.
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Old GI · 09-04-2006, 10:37 AM

If the Keyston folks read this forum, they should check the latest membership figures, over 6000 Montana owners are watching this issue.

Pete, Waltraud (Wally), Brian(Grandson) and Hannah (Big German Shepherd).
2005 Ford F-350 Lariat DRW FX4 Crew Cab 6.0 Turbo Diesel, w/tow boss package, dual batteries and alternators. Reese 16K fifth wheel and a 2005 Montana 2955RL.
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dchafer · 09-04-2006, 11:13 AM

You and your wife will be in our prayers. If there is anything you need or if we can help, let us know.. Montana club is a great group... May God Bless.
I think Keystone should read our concerns and take note, we are the voice of the people and I hope they listen. We take pride in our Montana's and we are the free advertising they rely on for more sales. If we are not satisfied that should affect their sales a bit. Hope they can see it matters to us. How much more could this cost them if they buy by volume???? Does anyone know?? I think we are worth it...
Diane

Diane,Dennis & Taffy
3400RL
2003 Silverado 2500 HD D/A, Prodigy Control
Reese 16K Slider

Old GI · 09-04-2006, 11:20 AM

I have had some less than satisfying conversations with some customer service reps at Keystone also, there's a old saying " if the boss doesn't care, no one below him will either"

Pete, Waltraud (Wally), Brian(Grandson) and Hannah (Big German Shepherd).
2005 Ford F-350 Lariat DRW FX4 Crew Cab 6.0 Turbo Diesel, w/tow boss package, dual batteries and alternators. Reese 16K fifth wheel and a 2005 Montana 2955RL.
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Broome101 · 09-04-2006, 11:50 AM

Well that's a change looks like Keystone is trying to run off good customers. My 2005 has the High Gloss finish. If that has changed I will not have or trade anytime soon. I like the fact that some such as jayco, Cedar Creek, Cardinal, Esclade all offer full body paint just like the Big Sky use to have. My opinion is this make rig even look more higher end. I for one love the full body paint and would not mind paying for it. Jayco offers it as a 4K adder.

Broome101
2005 F350 PSD,SRW,CC,LB, King Ranch, 4x4
2005 3685FL
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Broome101 · 09-04-2006, 11:52 AM

By the way John Kohl Semper Fi

Broome101
2005 F350 PSD,SRW,CC,LB, King Ranch, 4x4
2005 3685FL
http://www.picturetrail.com/broome101

jrgwdenner · 09-04-2006, 11:56 AM

John, there's not a more important reason in the world for hijacking a thread. Prayer works and, well, as the saying goes, more is better. And you couldn't find a more faithful group.

I think it's ludicrous to think that Keystone would offer the high gloss finish and just skip over the doors. Who would have ever thought they wouldn't do the doors. What are they thinking!

Judy
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Traveling with Glen and Greta in our 2004 Dodge dually and Montana 3380 RL

richfaa · 09-04-2006, 02:01 PM

Sounds like they are hard pressed to cut cost . Wonder what other cost cutting measures are in the works. Will they pass on the cost savings to the consumer?If they have to do things like that to save money they may be in financial trouble. It could be good news if they are, perhaps they will sell out to the Japanese or Chinese and we will get a better product.. Interesting to see how this turns out...

Rich& Helen N.Ridgeville,Ohio.

F-350SD, Lariat, V-10,4:30 Diff, tow command Long bed, Crew Cab Dually, 06 3400RL
Mor-Ryde Pin Box

CountryGuy · 09-04-2006, 02:07 PM

My first thought it was a weight issue, not cost cutting or going out of business.

Can anyone remember what they told us on plant tour, bout how they make the sides?? I think I remember that the windows and doors are cut out at the plant, AFTER all the hi-gloss/gel coat stuff is done. Does that mean the do the same on the storage doors?? If so, they have already paid for the hi-gloss finish. Maybe they cannot use the cut outs for the doors??

Whewie, wish this ole leaky brain could remember. SIGH

Carol

richfaa · 09-04-2006, 02:23 PM

Humm..cut down on weight...If the entire extra weight of the high gloss finish is 200lbs how much can the high gloss on 5 doors weigh..on the 3400 that would be the 2 side compartment doors, the front compartment and the 2 small propane doors. Someone better check on the fresh water intake door and the entrance door. The logical weight reduction would be to do away with High Gloss all together and save 200lbs..The door weight thing sounds a bit feeble to me??? Good question for the factory tour...

Rich& Helen N.Ridgeville,Ohio.

F-350SD, Lariat, V-10,4:30 Diff, tow command Long bed, Crew Cab Dually, 06 3400RL
Mor-Ryde Pin Box

CountryGuy · 09-04-2006, 02:34 PM

That would be my thought, good question for the factory tour.

I agree, a bit feeble,

Did say it was my first thought! HA HA HA HA

Carol

richfaa · 09-04-2006, 03:30 PM

Oh by the way . I have Thor industries (THO) on my financial listings .They are having a banner year . Little chance of Thor selling any part of their holdings ..just wishful thinking on my part. Reducing cost is something that goes on all the time in every company.There are good ideas and bad ideas...My prediction is the door thing won't last long...

Rich& Helen N.Ridgeville,Ohio.

F-350SD, Lariat, V-10,4:30 Diff, tow command Long bed, Crew Cab Dually, 06 3400RL
Mor-Ryde Pin Box

Broome101 · 09-05-2006, 01:40 AM

Well if the compartment doors have to be regular felon Fiberglas and not high gloss than why can the make the entry door in high gloss? It's cut out the same way the compartment door are. Sounds like BS to me and they are just cutting corners. True they have upgraded many things on the 07 models even better than my 05 but if they keep cutting tiny corners such as these they will soon get same name and reputation as some of the others out there, then they want be on top of the list any longer.

Broome101
2005 F350 PSD,SRW,CC,LB, King Ranch, 4x4
2005 3685FL
http://www.picturetrail.com/broome101

worknomore · 09-05-2006, 03:00 AM

And the upgraded Montana was SUPPOSED to be the replacement for the Big Sky (per Jeff Rank)???

If this keeps up, a lot of folks will be replacing their Montana with another brand!

Jim & Bev
'05 2955RL
'04 Duramax
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richfaa · 09-05-2006, 03:16 AM

So what is your opinion Steve.R How does it look and is the entry door and fresh water inlet high gloss or not??

Rich& Helen N.Ridgeville,Ohio.

F-350SD, Lariat, V-10,4:30 Diff, tow command Long bed, Crew Cab Dually, 06 3400RL
Mor-Ryde Pin Box

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