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11-06-2023, 04:31 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Austin
Posts: 2,460
M.O.C. #21044
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Originally Posted by Foldbak
It just dawned on me, one reason I'd buy another Montana is because of this group. Every question answered with no judgement or attitude, unlike other forums! Just here to help. That said, thank you all!
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I was thinking the same thing!
I’m pretty sure there is a forum for most brands on the market and anyone considering another brand can go read about the experiences from those owners.
I regularly read the Keystone RV Owners forum and IRV2. Help and advice shared in the Montana forum is incredible and it is offered with unsaid encouragement…”you can fix this yourself”.
A search for the perfect RV could prove to be long and frustrating. The forums for Prevost conversions, Newmar and Foretravel are not filled with topics like “Everything works perfect on my rig” or “Still waiting for a malfunction” or “I have TOO much storage”. They have problems too!
Our search for the perfect RV ended with this floor plan. We hope to go the distance with this unit - so I need to maintain it, improve it as I can, and fix whatever issue comes our way. This forum helps me reach that goal.
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MikenDebbie Aggie ‘77 in the sticks near Austin TX
2019 Chevy 3500 High Country DRW
2018 Montana 3921FB
Aussie Gus + Texas Heeler Jimmy
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12-08-2023, 02:58 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Winter Haven
Posts: 76
M.O.C. #23309
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I'm glad you brought that issue up. Totally agree with you, The knowledge and friendliness on this group is awesome. I have tons of machinal knowledge including aircraft mechanic license and would be lost with out the help from these members. Thanks.
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2019 3121RL
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11-05-2023, 10:51 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
Posts: 2,017
M.O.C. #21963
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This our second one. The first was good, this one not nearly the quality of the first. No new montys for us.
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2016 3160, Legacy, Sailuns, Splendide 2100 xc vented, 1 1/2" axle lift blocks, disk brakes. 2014 Ram 3500 SRW SWB 4X4 6.7 Aisin Mega Cab, EBC slotted disks and brakes, Titan fuel tank.
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11-06-2023, 08:31 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Livermore
Posts: 5,159
M.O.C. #1920
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This is a hot topic depending on your personal experience. As I have stated numerous times, your dealer will determine your experience. We have been MOC members since 2004 and this group has helped us grow as RVers along the way. Our 2005, 2010, 2015 and 2021 Montana’s have been fairly trouble free. But our last two, purchased at Leach Camper in Council Bluffs, Iowa (500 miles away) have been very reliable. Before our PDI, they filled/dumped all tanks, fixed cosmetics, checked all lights, and also the HVAC. Things like the furnace 15 amp self resetting fuse are replaced automatically. All the little issues that irritate new owners. If I do have an issue, I make an appointment, they get the parts, I pull in at 8:30 and they fix it same day. We took our 2010 and 2021 Montana’s to Alaska and the 2010 did break a spring. But almost every type/brand has issues on those roads. This year with IS, no issues. Would I buy another Montana - definitely. But, this group is definitely one of the features of owning a Montana. You will see even prior owners hang around because of the MOC. Plus, the model specific Facebook Groups help maximize the experience by floor plan. Just my experience. YMMV.
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Ron and Terrie Ames - MOC #1920/KF0NTA
2021Montana 3230CK Super Solar Legacy Package
2021 Ram 3500 Laramie Longhorn, BIM Charging
4x4, SRW, LB, Crew Cab, Pullrite 3900 Hitch
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11-06-2023, 12:31 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: USA
Posts: 612
M.O.C. #25842
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Had I been asked this question before my spring hangars broke I would probably have said yes. But I didn’t discover them until we were three days from having to vacate a Florida state park. I had one hell of a time finding a mobile welder to do the repair so it hit my last raw nerve. We really do love our Montana and are pretty sure we’ve got all the bugs worked out.
Still wouldn’t buy another because Keysone/Lippert has known about the frail spring hangars for years and has chosen to ignore the issue.
Note the date on this thread:
https://www.montanaowners.com/forums...66#post1046366
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11-06-2023, 04:34 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Carmichael - CA
Posts: 7,440
M.O.C. #4831
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Quote:
Originally Posted by R.S.O'Donnell
....Still wouldn’t buy another because Keysone/Lippert has known about the frail spring hangars for years and has chosen to ignore the issue....
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I am pretty sure Montana/Lippert finally addressed the spring hanger problem with the 2022 (?) models. Just many years late!
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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11-06-2023, 04:45 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
Posts: 2,317
M.O.C. #30417
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl n Susan
I am pretty sure Montana/Lippert finally addressed the spring hanger problem with the 2022 (?) models. Just many years late!
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Carl you are correct. They have added support gussets. I keep an eye on them and so far all good. 5000ish miles. Here's a pic from a recent post.
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Tony & Donna
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, Solar Flex 400, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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11-06-2023, 05:57 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: St. Paul
Posts: 65
M.O.C. #32135
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i was just going to say yes but it says we need 6 characters so yes
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11-06-2023, 01:19 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Nov 2023
Location: Brandon
Posts: 1
M.O.C. #33596
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RV show is November. 9-12. I am looking forward to seeing the newer RV's even though I just bought my first one. I am hoping to get some remodeling ideas from the newer ones. You never know, I might trade in the old girl for new one! LOL
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11-06-2023, 02:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
Posts: 2,317
M.O.C. #30417
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FL Cajun Camper
RV show is November. 9-12. I am looking forward to seeing the newer RV's even though I just bought my first one. I am hoping to get some remodeling ideas from the newer ones. You never know, I might trade in the old girl for new one! LOL
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Welcome to the MOC and congrats on the new rig!
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Tony & Donna
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, Solar Flex 400, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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11-06-2023, 03:13 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Milwaukie, OR
Posts: 1,492
M.O.C. #23668
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FL Cajun Camper
RV show is November. 9-12. I am looking forward to seeing the newer RV's even though I just bought my first one. I am hoping to get some remodeling ideas from the newer ones. You never know, I might trade in the old girl for new one! LOL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Foldbak
Welcome to the MOC and congrats on the new rig!
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Or the next new one from the show this weekend...
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Jeff & Sandi (and Teddy - 7lb Schnorkie)
2018 Montana HC 305RL / HW Progressive EMS
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie Longhorn Crew Cab 4x4 DRW / Demco Recon Hitch on RAM Puck Ball
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11-07-2023, 09:58 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,582
M.O.C. #2283
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I think poor quality is or can be a problem across all manufacturing. You always wont manufacturing to go faster. When it does you make more money. And buyers get brownie points for buying cheaper. They never get a pay raise for spending more money. And we wont a perfect build camper but wont it as cheap as we can get it. So we have a conflict. How much would you spend for better quality?
Lynwood
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11-07-2023, 03:57 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Coloma, Wisconsin
Posts: 202
M.O.C. #28036
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Truthfully, IMO, if they built it noticeable better with quality materials I would be willing to pay more. Remember the old saying " You get what you pay for" and a long with that can be a lot of time & headaches saved with a quality build.
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Chuck
2019 3121RL 35 ft., 2020 3500 Dodge Ram SRW, Cummins 6.7 HO, Air Bags - Air Lift BT Wireless Compressor, Coloma, Wisconsin
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11-07-2023, 05:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Austin
Posts: 2,460
M.O.C. #21044
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wisconsin Retiree
Truthfully, IMO, if they built it noticeable better with quality materials I would be willing to pay more. Remember the old saying " You get what you pay for" and a long with that can be a lot of time & headaches saved with a quality build.
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If my unit had painted or real wood veneer doors in lieu of the wood-grain paper that peels (3 problem doors - half bath+bedroom+main bath) - my complaints about quality would be satisfied.
Confession/ Clarification - The small list of quality issues for my unit is most likely due to the fact that we have not been living in it full time and have only put maybe 10k-12k miles on it since we bought it January 2018. I know my day will come when we use it more after I retire. I read this forum to get a free education on the things that will likely go wrong and at least I will know which way to turn the bolt or the screw.
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MikenDebbie Aggie ‘77 in the sticks near Austin TX
2019 Chevy 3500 High Country DRW
2018 Montana 3921FB
Aussie Gus + Texas Heeler Jimmy
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11-07-2023, 06:31 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Shingle Springs
Posts: 2,317
M.O.C. #30417
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikendebbie
If my unit had painted or real wood veneer doors in lieu of the wood-grain paper that peels (3 problem doors - half bath+bedroom+main bath) - my complaints about quality would be satisfied.
Confession/ Clarification - The small list of quality issues for my unit is most likely due to the fact that we have not been living in it full time and have only put maybe 10k-12k miles on it since we bought it January 2018. I know my day will come when we use it more after I retire. I read this forum to get a free education on the things that will likely go wrong and at least I will know which way to turn the bolt or the screw.
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Righty tighty lefty loosey
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Tony & Donna
2022 Montana HC, 295RL, Solar Flex 400, Onan 3600 LPG, 2K inverter, 200AH Lithium. 2020 GMC Denali 2500 6.6 Duramax, Demco 21K Auto Slide
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11-08-2023, 01:40 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2023
Location: Washington
Posts: 4
M.O.C. #33222
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Horace
I recently pulled part of undercarrige cover down. What a tangled mess with ewires in piles just thrown in. Keyston has very poor manuals also..
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11-08-2023, 01:09 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Hanover
Posts: 1,472
M.O.C. #13325
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Don't know. While ours was 3 years used and had whatever big bugs worked out, I've seen too many quality issues with newer ones. That said, EVERY brand has the same problem. I'd have to very closely inspect anything before buying - and the problem is that dealers don't want to put water in them or let you power things on to let you check out the important stuff. Guess that leaves me with private owner used vs. new, which is fine by me. (just noticed my map - we did the SE with a bumper pull before getting our Monty.)
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11-08-2023, 01:11 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Granbury
Posts: 76
M.O.C. #25118
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Would I buy?
If they built cars like they. Build RVs the auto industry would go bankrupt The junk they put out is atrocious and Montana is on the top of the list. I hate government Intervention but in this case there needs to be some standards that should be met. It’s like a bunch of drunks build these things.
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11-08-2023, 01:36 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2023
Location: Washington
Posts: 4
M.O.C. #33222
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agree my 2020 hs been trrrible one thing after another.
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11-08-2023, 01:33 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Aug 2023
Location: Washington
Posts: 4
M.O.C. #33222
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Originally Posted by 432bartman
I'm questioning how much longer we will keep my 2019. For those of you who have purchased newer rigs, how has the quality been? Are you still happy? Would you buy another one? I recently had the opportunity to check out the new Brinkley line of trailers at our local Mike Thompson RV center, who carries Montana's, Solitudes, and everything else. The Brinkley is a fresh company, the owners use to own Grand Design, sold it, and ventured off to start this new company, with an emphasis on quality and customer service. I was very impressed with the Brinkley as one of Brinkley's own reps was there to explain their company, construction and quality of their trailers.
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I have a 2020 Montana Legacy by Keystone. I would never buy anything Keystone builds. Terible customer service and Camping world is terible. They kept it 5 months out of first 13 I owned it. Seem everything is very poor quality.
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