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04-30-2016, 02:16 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Potosi
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M.O.C. #18437
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I bought one
OK, I recently bought a 2008 Montana but I am not camping in it I am living in it full time (Like a Tiny House). Unfortunately it did not come with the Owners Manual But I have found them on line.
I will admit that I have only skimmed through the manual and I have looked up a couple of minor issues. What I am needing/wanting is some system schematics. The dealer I bought it from is over a hundred miles from my place and the nearest dealer is over 60. If I had the schematics I could trouble shoot any problems (I have a few) and try too fix them.
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04-30-2016, 02:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Arroyo City
Posts: 3,110
M.O.C. #13395
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Welcome to the group! Schematics are hard to come by
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04-30-2016, 03:09 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Not sure they exist. Few years ago, I queried Keystone on a wiring issue, and they did respond, but faxed me a hand drawn schematic that was not accurate.
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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04-30-2016, 03:28 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 3,335
M.O.C. #10496
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Welcome to the MOC!
Schematics for Keystone RVs either don't exist or are a closely held secret at Keystone. You are further ahead posing your question/problem to the members here at the MOC. Lots of "been there, done that" knowledge here.
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LevelUp, Dual 6 volt batteries, Progressive Industries EMS HW50C, Honda EU2000i Generator, Bridgestone Duravis R250 tires, Torklift Glowstep Revolution Stairs, LED Tail lights
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie SRW LB CC Cummins 6.7L Aisin Trans B&W RVK3600
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04-30-2016, 05:03 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Warrior AL, usually
Posts: 184
M.O.C. #15888
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by CORattler
Welcome to the MOC!
Schematics for Keystone RVs either don't exist or are a closely held secret at Keystone. You are further ahead posing your question/problem to the members here at the MOC. Lots of "been there, done that" knowledge here.
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X2!
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04-30-2016, 05:22 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
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Welcome to the forum! 18-20 or more Montana's roll off the line everyday. That's 18-20 or more built from the bare frame to completion. Each section is done so rapidly that I don't think Keystone can count on wiring or plumbing being exactly the same from rig to rig and that's why they won't share schematics. Many of us do live full time in our rigs and , as stated above, have been there and done that. No matter how simple the solution, no question is too simple and no one flames anyone on this forum so feel free to ask away.
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2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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04-30-2016, 07:34 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Lima
Posts: 138
M.O.C. #18168
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Welcome ... I have only had my (16 year old) Montana for a short time. I have a problem that schematics would have really helped so I call Keystone and was told no such thing as schematics. Yes ... I was shocked. The people on this blog are really helpful.
Dennis
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04-30-2016, 10:50 AM
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Potosi
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M.O.C. #18437
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Well darn the bad luck. Here is the problem. As I stated I am living in the RV as a MiniHouse. So I am hooked up to the well via hose and city water port. The pressure from the the faucets is Dismal and from the shower hose, well it ain't there. I called the Dealer Se3rvice Department and he started rattling on about check valves and such and asked did the water input go directly into the Freshwater holding tank? I tried to follow the line but it just goes into a spaghetti bundle of hoses , Tees and what every. Short of pulling the belly pan is there any fix?
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04-30-2016, 01:48 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Pensacola (mail forward service)
Posts: 3,198
M.O.C. #13740
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If we assume your well has a pressure tank on it and it is delivering somewhere near 50psi, then you should have good flow in the trailer. There is a check valve built into the city water connection that may be hung up to one side and blocking flow. With the hose off, you should be able to see any check valve when you look straight into the female fitting on the trailer. John
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05-01-2016, 03:45 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Shore
Posts: 6,009
M.O.C. #7110
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If you have low water pressure try filling the fresh water tank
and using the pump for when water is needed.
It may improve the pressure enough for showering etc..
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05-01-2016, 04:23 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,173
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When we bought our 2007 new it had a weird wiring problem, corrected under warranty by the dealer. Took them a while to find the problem as they had no wiring diagram. I asked the dealer if he would get me a wiring diagram of the trailer from the manufacturer and he said he would. He called a couple days later and said even he could not get a wiring diagram from Keystone. Either they did not have them, or they did not give them out, not real clear from their answer to him.
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Riley, our Golden
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05-04-2016, 05:19 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Potosi
Posts: 3
M.O.C. #18437
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Thank U for all the information and help at least I can start puzzling through this. BTW the pump on does improve pressure some Thank You
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05-05-2016, 03:07 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 3,335
M.O.C. #10496
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There are also water restrictors on the faucets and shower head. Try removing one first to see if it improves your water flow. If it does, remove the others.
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LevelUp, Dual 6 volt batteries, Progressive Industries EMS HW50C, Honda EU2000i Generator, Bridgestone Duravis R250 tires, Torklift Glowstep Revolution Stairs, LED Tail lights
2015 RAM 3500 Laramie SRW LB CC Cummins 6.7L Aisin Trans B&W RVK3600
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05-08-2016, 05:38 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Sioux Falls
Posts: 664
M.O.C. #10985
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If you are using a pressure regulator on your hose that may be the problem. I had poor water pressure until i removed pressure Regulator. On another occasion the check valve behind the convenience center panel had frozen even though I had antifreeze in the system. It pushed the check valve ball too far and jammed it there. I poped it back into place and all is fine.
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05-15-2016, 04:41 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Nokomis
Posts: 464
M.O.C. #18144
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Welcome.
yeah better off asking questions here. When I had an issue with my backup camera, that was proof about the "things being different from rig to rig" I don't think they have consistency on the way they do each rig. Your RV is not to much different on the plumbing/electrical side from your home, as far as the basics. Get a good multimeter to help troubleshoot electrical issues. 12v is easy, positive and negative. 120 AC is a little more involved, but if you have basic knowledge of electricity and how it works in your house, you can have good success troubleshooting some issues. and some basic plumbing tools to fix minor issues.
As for your issue, fill the water tank, and run with the pump on. if that makes a big improvement, its a safe bet that your fixtures and most plumbing is OK, and that the problem lies in a check valve, pressure regulator, or just not enough incoming pressure from your source.
One last thing, there are several RV maintenance and repair guides out there, I have 2 myself that I carry with me, that can help you troubleshoot and repair many things in your camper. I have one published by Bob Livingston (the industry expert) that is very detailed. Of course its in my camper, and I am at work at the moment, and cant remember the name. Good manuals to have though.
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2016 Montana 3950 BR
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