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03-30-2008, 03:22 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Posts: 176
M.O.C. #6077
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Low Profile second air conditioner
Looking for feedback on low profile ac units for the front of our 5th wheel, Im not going to go thru another summer with 1 air conditioner struggling. It looks like the only 3 choices are carrier, duo therm and coleman. Im kinda leaning toward the carrier simply because of its advertised 7 1/2" height but Im open to sugesstions.
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03-31-2008, 01:57 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Posts: 2,376
M.O.C. #6575
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We have the Dometic Penguin 13.5 on our Mountaineer. Pleased with it so far. I know a number of folks on here also have the Carrier units. I looked at the Carrier, but the specs are that the unit is not to be installed with the front tilted below level. Specs here. The Mountaineer has a pretty good downward slope on the front. I felt a wedge was a good place for a leak to develop. Is it going to be an issue with premature failure with the Carriers? I would think the verdict is still out on that one.
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03-31-2008, 12:51 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: SW
Posts: 255
M.O.C. #7895
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We opted for Duo Therm...since just about every thing else is DT.
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03-31-2008, 12:56 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Layton
Posts: 1,048
M.O.C. #666
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I had too much problem with the Penguin on our 2955. Maybe works fine as front AC.
I think I will go with full height and 15K when we add front AC. Not that much more $ than the 13K.
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03-31-2008, 12:57 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Missiion
Posts: 983
M.O.C. #4766
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Dometic Penguin, has three year warranty and most places'carry the shroud parts if you need them. just an inch difference, but the warranty is better by a year I think.. Your profile doesn't show where you live, if you were close to me, I could get you a very good deal on a Penguin (New) you would have to put it in or have someone do it but you would save a lot...
BRANSON IS GREAT IN 2008
Later John
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03-31-2008, 01:46 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Leona
Posts: 6,382
M.O.C. #2059
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Have dealer installed Carrier. Like!! Would do it again.
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03-31-2008, 02:49 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Choctaw
Posts: 530
M.O.C. #6364
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We have a 13.5K for the second AC. Wish ours was a low profile. Standard non ducted Dometic, makes too much noise for sleeping. If we do run the second unit at all, it is during the day and the main 15K unit at night which is quite adequate for the Texas summer.
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04-01-2008, 12:17 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2006
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M.O.C. #6077
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Thanks folks, I certainly cannot do a standard height, Im just not comfortable with that much overall height of the rig, which is too bad because theres some great deals out there for them.
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04-01-2008, 03:07 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Layton
Posts: 1,048
M.O.C. #666
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How much taller than the vent covers is the full height?
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04-01-2008, 04:44 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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I think if you read the tolerances for the Carrier AirV at the top of page 8, it is stated that there is a 10 degree side to side tolerance as well as a 10 degree front to back tolerance. 10 degrees is a lot of leeway and I don't think (haven't measured) that any part of a Montana roof exceeds 10 degrees. Our AirV is dealer installed without any wedges.
This information as presented represents my opinion only, and any installations or selections should not be arrived at solely on behalf of this post (Sorry, got a little carried away with the disclaimer there, Ha Ha!!)
Bingo
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04-01-2008, 05:11 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Montgomery
Posts: 279
M.O.C. #8231
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Nancy and I will be adding a second air soon as well and since we allready have a sat dome the 2nd air reg height should't be a problem, we were more concerned about amp draw and while looking through CW I noticed a Dometic unit that drew only 10 amps(everything else was closer to 15amps). Steve
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04-01-2008, 05:18 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Montgomery
Posts: 279
M.O.C. #8231
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sorry was not a dometic, it was a coleman mach iii heat pump 13.5 @10.2 amps cooling--heat strips were another thing @ 16 amps . Steve
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04-01-2008, 06:08 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Lone Tree
Posts: 5,615
M.O.C. #6109
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FLSTS03,
Don't worry about the amp draw unless you typically only hook up to 30A. I've had this new 3400 plugged into the 50A and actually tried to overrun it. Can't happen.
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04-02-2008, 12:55 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location:
Posts: 2,376
M.O.C. #6575
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by bncinwv
I think if you read the tolerances for the Carrier AirV at the top of page 8, it is stated that there is a 10 degree side to side tolerance as well as a 10 degree front to back tolerance. 10 degrees is a lot of leeway and I don't think (haven't measured) that any part of a Montana roof exceeds 10 degrees. Our AirV is dealer installed without any wedges.
This information as presented represents my opinion only, and any installations or selections should not be arrived at solely on behalf of this post (Sorry, got a little carried away with the disclaimer there, Ha Ha!!)
Bingo
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Bingo, I think if you'll look at the link I provided earlier, the spec for the front of the Carrier unit is Above level - 10* Below level - O*. IIRC, the front of our 303RLD is something like 7*.(I checked it, but have slept since then.) I have a neighbor with a Montana, and the front looks to have very little slope to it. I'm don't know about the 307RKD, but I suspect the Mountaineers might have a basic design.
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