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04-03-2005, 01:31 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Petaluma
Posts: 150
M.O.C. #3382
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Blocking front landing gear?
just a question about using blocking under the front landing gear.is it nessesary in a Montana.i really don't mean for leveling, on some larger units people use them and others don't.on my smaller 5er i used them all the time because the legs seemed weak, when they were fully extended,but the legs on the unit we have they seem really strong.i have sturdy blocking ,ya think i should use them?. sorry for the ramble.
mike &amy johnson
rio vista calif
05-2955rl
semper-fi &good luck
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04-03-2005, 02:28 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 328
M.O.C. #3149
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I believe blocking under front landing for the Montana has more to do with firmness of site, etc. Definitely not necessary on concrete.
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04-03-2005, 02:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ft. Smith
Posts: 981
M.O.C. #116
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I wouldn't think so, if you're talking about blocking all the way to the frame. Probably not necessary in most cases, if you mean one under each jack. But, we stayed at a park where it was a requirement to put a block/pad under the jack feet, and it was on cement pads. I also noticed the other day that one of the jack feet was somewhat deformed/bent from settling in soft ground somewhere. Soooo, I would suggest you have a block/pad for each jack on hand, just in case. Actually, I almost always use a block under each of the jacks.
Skip
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04-03-2005, 03:29 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Petaluma
Posts: 150
M.O.C. #3382
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thx, i will start using the blocks, and i did'nt mean blocking to the frame.thx
mike&amy johnson
rio vita , calif
05-2955rl
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04-03-2005, 05:59 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Leona
Posts: 6,382
M.O.C. #2059
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I agree that a single pad under the front legs and the rear jacks is a good idea, not because of the strength of the legs, but because of the ground underneath the legs. I use 2"x10" cut about 2' long. This allows the weight on the foot to be spread over that amount of surface. Sort of like the snow shoe principle. I don't like my metal legs directly on cement surfaces and certainly not on soil surfaces.
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04-03-2005, 09:46 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 1,740
M.O.C. #1757
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I also recommend using pads under the landing gear.
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04-03-2005, 11:40 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Drexel Hill
Posts: 897
M.O.C. #627
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I bought a "ultra pad" at camping world.It replaces the foot pad that comes on the Montana.It is probably 3 times as big as the standard one.But I probably will still put a block under the landing gear.
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04-04-2005, 12:11 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Hartselle
Posts: 977
M.O.C. #45
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We use a 6x6x12 under all our legs just for more stability on all surfaces. Works good for us, plus you don't have to run the legs out as far.
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04-04-2005, 02:53 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Lewiston
Posts: 83
M.O.C. #2464
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I too use a block under the front landing gear as well as the rear jacks. I just received a king pin support and will put blocks under it's feet as well.
Good to hear from another JARHEAD. Good camping and SEMPER FI
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04-04-2005, 03:04 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Yuma
Posts: 856
M.O.C. #1935
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I have always used blocks under the jacks to keep from sinking into soft ground or black top on hot days and to keep any rusting down to a minmum
Mel
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04-04-2005, 03:27 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Clearwater
Posts: 10,917
M.O.C. #420
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I use blockage under the front jacks as well as under the rear stabilizers.
The rig feels much more stabile this way than with the jacks and stabilizers lowered to a pad or the ground.
BTW-Notice how the front pad is not totally flat on the block. It has a sort of convex shape. This, I believe, is the deformed/bent front pad that Skip was refering to. You are correct Skip it got bent sitting on soft ground.
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04-04-2005, 03:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Deming
Posts: 679
M.O.C. #3189
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Used to put 8" blocks under front legs. Came home put block behind wheel, big bloocks under legs pulled king pin release and was horrified to watch that the wheel block was not doing its job. Result smashed side rails. So be careful.
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04-04-2005, 03:48 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Clermont
Posts: 1,753
M.O.C. #266
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We have been parked on a concrete pad all winter. We purchased two heavy plastic like (not sure what this stuff is made of) cutting boards, aproximately 10" x 12" x 1" thick, to use under the front legs. We have been using these for two years on all surfaces when setting up. They are easy to wash up when tearing down if we are parked on grass and/or dirt. On concrete or pavement they protect legs and prevent indentations in pavement. Also distribute the weight to some degree. These cutting boards can be purchased at WalMart etc. We even found green ones that blend in with the grass.
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04-04-2005, 04:04 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Carlisle
Posts: 402
M.O.C. #908
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I put 8" blocks under the front legs and sometimes add another 2x6. While the legs are strong I believe the shorter you can keep the front legs the more stable the trailer will be. I block under the rear jacks as well although not to the same extend. I do it there mainly to increase the footprint of the jack.
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04-04-2005, 01:28 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cooper
Posts: 1,230
M.O.C. #3029
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Chester-
You might be right about the shorter the legs the more stable the trailer should be. In my opinion it is not worth the risk to block your trailer any higher than what the clearance is from the bottom of the trailer to the bed rails on the truck. Just this afternoon I saw a F-250 with crushed rails and a bent tailgate. Guessing what the situation might have been, I looked in the back and sure enough was a 5th wheel hitch.
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04-05-2005, 07:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Santa Fe Springs
Posts: 4,189
M.O.C. #639
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I ( my oppion ) dont think it is as sterdy, I would hate to see what would happen in a earth quake, being elevated that high, on a borad that is smaller at the bottom, as in Glenn and Lorraine photo's. Glenn that is an inverted peramid reverse it with the larger boards on the bottom. I believe that a trailer will get more movement from all those boards stacked on top of each other, I only use a 12 by 12 by 3/4 inch pad under my front legs to prevent sinking if on dirt of ashphalt, some parks require it, or a fine will come your way ( Sienent Vally ) is one. And when the tripod is under the pin that usually stabelises the front in conjunction with the wheel locks.
I will agree with the lego blocks or a large block under the rear stabilisers, because thats all they are, (Stabilisers) not supports, they need all the help they can get as they do get weaker and wobbelly the further they get extended.
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Pulling a 2004, 2980 RL an oldie but goodie.
Tow vehicle is a 2009 RED RAM 3500 DRW.
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04-05-2005, 09:24 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Haldimand County
Posts: 2,413
M.O.C. #122
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We also use blocks under front and rear feet. Mine are made up from pieces of 2x10 nailed together to make a block about 10x10x10 (lumber dimensions). I belive this improves the stability of the rig, protects the feet from the ground (and the ground from the feet). Seems to pretty common practice among all 5er users.
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04-06-2005, 04:32 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Petaluma
Posts: 150
M.O.C. #3382
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well thx for the input on blocking the front of the trailer.i am going to be blocking the front,it seems you should not go to high and i won't, thx again.
mike&amy johnson
rio vista calif
05-2955rl
semper-fi& good luck
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04-06-2005, 06:22 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: union
Posts: 29
M.O.C. #2189
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we use blocks under the landing gear that look like a small piramid when stacked ontop of each other (two per side). this stops the need for a front bi-pod leg set under the pin. it really takes the movment out of the trailer, if you keep the landing gear as short as possible.
jim
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04-07-2005, 02:30 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Harrodsburg
Posts: 191
M.O.C. #93
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Not to sound stupid but what do you mean by blocking. Do you mean placing boards on the ground for the legs to rest on?
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