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03-25-2021, 07:16 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Gardnerville
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Are you also over the Truck's GVWR?... we bought the dually..Had a 3500 Ram, traded in for another Ram 3500 Dually. Dealer gave us full KBB trade in and a great buy on the one we bought. We went from A Laramie to a Laramie Longhorn..Our selling dealer wanted to give us half of what we paid a year prior..Dealer was in Nampa Idaho..our payment went up about very little..We paid 62 in 17... Today the trucks resale is 3500 more.... what is that?
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03-25-2021, 07:23 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Gardnerville
Posts: 1,252
M.O.C. #17163
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Over gvwr?
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03-26-2021, 08:31 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
Posts: 2,017
M.O.C. #21963
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dfb
Are you also over the Truck's GVWR?... we bought the dually..Had a 3500 Ram, traded in for another Ram 3500 Dually. Dealer gave us full KBB trade in and a great buy on the one we bought. We went from A Laramie to a Laramie Longhorn..Our selling dealer wanted to give us half of what we paid a year prior..Dealer was in Nampa Idaho..our payment went up about very little..We paid 62 in 17... Today the trucks resale is 3500 more.... what is that?
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The average amount off msrp for those Idaho dealers a while back was $12,500. These days they are nowhere near that. As such, the amount for trade ins is higher. They will get you on one end or another.
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03-26-2021, 09:23 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
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M.O.C. #21963
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Got er weighed today on the way home from a trip loaded. My gvwr is 12300 lbs. The way I figure it is I'm loaded to the max to the pound except for 20 lbs over on gawr of 7000 lbs.
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2016 3160, Legacy, Sailuns, Splendide 2100 xc vented, 1 1/2" axle lift blocks, disk brakes. 2014 Ram 3500 SRW SWB 4X4 6.7 Aisin Mega Cab, EBC slotted disks and brakes, Titan fuel tank.
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03-26-2021, 09:30 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Rogers
Posts: 17
M.O.C. #25721
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Thanks for posting this. We've got a CAT scale not far from us now. This will simplify stopping in and weighing my rig.
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03-27-2021, 05:03 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Florence
Posts: 945
M.O.C. #20472
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Here is another Cat Scale, truck only and truck and 5th loaded leaving Ca. I’m going to adjust my BW Companion to add more weight to the front axial before we leave Fort Smith AR. As I have it now all the weight is over the rear axial from the pin. Glad I have a DRW 
The notes on the side is added weight from when we left to CA so we gained some weight, got a little fatter lol.
https://www.montanaowners.com/forums...1&d=1616885832
https://www.montanaowners.com/forums...1&d=1616885832
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03-27-2021, 06:00 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
Posts: 2,017
M.O.C. #21963
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We basically have the same trailer. What the heck is in yours to make it so heavy? I thought mine was loaded but not even close to going over the trailer's gvwr. Yours would squish my 3500.
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2016 3160, Legacy, Sailuns, Splendide 2100 xc vented, 1 1/2" axle lift blocks, disk brakes. 2014 Ram 3500 SRW SWB 4X4 6.7 Aisin Mega Cab, EBC slotted disks and brakes, Titan fuel tank.
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03-27-2021, 06:17 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Gardnerville
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M.O.C. #17163
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Montana Man
The average amount off msrp for those Idaho dealers a while back was $12,500. These days they are nowhere near that. As such, the amount for trade ins is higher. They will get you on one end or another.
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We looked for over 2 years to find a 3500, longbed dually, aisin, autolevel 4:10s in a longhorn... i think we did okay.. especially since the kbb value is 3000 more than we paid 4 years ago..
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03-27-2021, 06:29 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Florence
Posts: 945
M.O.C. #20472
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Montana Man
We basically have the same trailer. What the heck is in yours to make it so heavy? I thought mine was loaded but not even close to going over the trailer's gvwr. Yours would squish my 3500.
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Lol, Well my axles are good on the 5th, truck axles are good, pin is under under the max rating. But the total on the truck is over by 180lbs. Ops
Our panty is full, basement is full and I had a full water tank, frig was full, and we have lots of wife stuff in this 5th.
What I should have said is those + numbers are really a -number , if you deduct those numbers that’s what we were when we left AL to Ca. This ticket was when we left Ca to Fort Smith AR.
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04-04-2021, 07:48 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2020
Location: UPLAND
Posts: 1,256
M.O.C. #26190
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Well after being fully loaded.....dog, wife, beer, scooters, e-bikes, clothes, food, I am 730 lbs. over my trucks GVWR. My weight over my rear axle is 338 lbs. over my allowed cargo weight of 3,182 lbs. Total weight of my Montana fully loaded came in at 15,160 lbs.
So I looked at what the GVWR of a 2021 Chevy 3500 SRW is, and I would have made it by 20 lbs. Now I see how a dually can come into the picture very quickly.
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04-04-2021, 08:10 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
Posts: 2,017
M.O.C. #21963
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My calcs show 420 lbs. over on the rear axle based upon door sticker of 6600 and scale at 7020. Then again, I have a public education and didn't finish at that 
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