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Old 09-14-2020, 08:07 AM   #21
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Forced to be there for work, forced to be in an environment that you don't like or not used to, not there to try to appreciate what it offers - it's understandable but, like being on the coast for folks that don't like water; sitting in a metroplex city and hating every minute; ....the list is endless of what "one" may like or not. It doesn't make it the end of the world for the next person that might have a different perspective. JMO


Living out here where there is no restaurants, movie, Walmart is 5 miles, gas is 3 miles some people would hate. Living in a little town let alone a big city and I would be miserable. Just shoot me I would honestly rather be dead. Every body likes something different. Iím so glad most people like living in town they arenít out here.
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Old 09-14-2020, 12:59 PM   #22
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We lived in Carlsbad, New Mexico for 1.5 years due to work. The people there are very nice but there is absolutely NOTHING about the state I would have anything to do with again!!! The desert sucks, no water no shade nothing to do but roast!!! So happy that other than visiting our grandkids, we will never have to spend time in that awful state again!!
Ha ha! I'm sorry you don't like it, I don't either. I've been here for 35 years and never did like the heat and the poor ground that won't grow anything. Colorado for us next year, but that's not a lot of improvement.
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Old 09-14-2020, 04:52 PM   #23
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Ha ha! I'm sorry you don't like it, I don't either. I've been here for 35 years and never did like the heat and the poor ground that won't grow anything. Colorado for us next year, but that's not a lot of improvement.
Egads, 35years. We did visit White Sands while there. That was interesting. Sorta strange to dive off the cool temps of Cloudcroft down into the basin heat.

On the other hand we liked Sliverton, CO at least during the summer. Not sure I would care about some things in the state that I can't mention here (same reason I wouldn't want to live full time in California).

I know some people like it in the desert. I don't know why but they do. But even a LOT of the locals would tell you they would rather live someplace else. Of course you will hear that in other areas of the country as well but it was more common around SE NM.
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Old 09-14-2020, 05:20 PM   #24
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Ha ha! I'm sorry you don't like it, I don't either. I've been here for 35 years and never did like the heat and the poor ground that won't grow anything. Colorado for us next year, but that's not a lot of improvement.


Red above ^......You should have worked on that soil. We used to have some of the best gardens anyone around had seen (Hobbs) - we loved it (the garden). I did however spend an inordinate amount of time gathering pickup beds full of cow manure and tilling it in...but stuff would sure grow...
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Old 09-14-2020, 05:45 PM   #25
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Red above ^......You should have worked on that soil. We used to have some of the best gardens anyone around had seen (Hobbs) - we loved it (the garden). I did however spend an inordinate amount of time gathering pickup beds full of cow manure and tilling it in...but stuff would sure grow...
In RED above. You had to add a lot to that soil to get anything to grow. Face it the soil is poor in the part of the country and more importantly water is scarce. They made us use reject water from the well water processing system at the RV park we were at to water the two or three little plants we had. It was a MAJOR pain in the butt. They really preferred you not to have any plants and were always watching the water consumption extremely close. Without the reverse osmosis filter system I doubt the water would have been drinkable it contained so many contaminates. We wouldn't drink it even after filtering. The lack of water is a big reason I did not care for the desert. We love to fish, kayak and watersports. Obviously not much of that in the desert.....
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In my 27 years in the Navy I was sent a few places that were not my first choice. Our family was able to find something good everywhere we went. With some flexibility and a good attitude you can always make a place a home. In a few places my wife cried coming in town and then a few years latter cried as we left. It really is more about the people you meet than the place.
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Old 09-14-2020, 06:25 PM   #27
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In RED above. You had to add a lot to that soil to get anything to grow. Face it the soil is poor in the part of the country and more importantly water is scarce. They made us use reject water from the well water processing system at the RV park we were at to water the two or three little plants we had. It was a MAJOR pain in the butt. They really preferred you not to have any plants and were always watching the water consumption extremely close. Without the reverse osmosis filter system I doubt the water would have been drinkable it contained so many contaminates. We wouldn't drink it even after filtering. The lack of water is a big reason I did not care for the desert. We love to fish, kayak and watersports. Obviously not much of that in the desert.....


I/we get it that you don't like SE NM, you've made that abundantly clear. I don't particularly like it either but AZ Traveler nailed it about as close as you can get it. If you don't like it that's fine and you've expressed that multiple times. Not really any need to jump in and try to counter anything anyone says positive (or not) about the place.

And BTW, the comment about the cow manure was just a "tickle" for Falcon and his comment about not being able to grow anything in Alamo from a fellow former New Mexican - not asking for a broadside about me having to "face" anything....I lived it.

AZ Traveler also had it right about the wife crying - when she (my DW) came into this town the first time....just burst into tears. Now, 31 years later, I've offered to build a house in a dozen beautiful places and she won't budge.... We've got the RV she says.
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Itís hot!

We live in a little town called Artesia which is between Carlsbad and Roswell in SE NM and have since 1990. Yes, it’s hot during the dead of summer and can be cold during the extreme winter months. Had 5 ft snow drifts a few years back. Triple digit heat generally don’t last much more than 1 month. We have beautiful mountains 1 hr east of here in Cloudcroft but it still gets pretty warm. I find the dry heat is much more bearable than high humidity in addition to heat.
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We live in a little town called Artesia which is between Carlsbad and Roswell in SE NM and have since 1990. Yes, it’s hot during the dead of summer and can be cold during the extreme winter months. Had 5 ft snow drifts a few years back. Triple digit heat generally don’t last much more than 1 month. We have beautiful mountains 1 hr east of here in Cloudcroft but it still gets pretty warm. I find the dry heat is much more bearable than high humidity in addition to heat.


And a little off the mark but, we loved that Burger King. Ate there a zillion times going to/from our mountain home until they remodeled and maybe the owner (which I had visited with) sold? Whatever, it sure seemed to go downhill real fast.
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We live in a little town called Artesia which is between Carlsbad and Roswell in SE NM and have since 1990. Yes, it’s hot during the dead of summer and can be cold during the extreme winter months. Had 5 ft snow drifts a few years back. Triple digit heat generally don’t last much more than 1 month. We have beautiful mountains 1 hr east of here in Cloudcroft but it still gets pretty warm. I find the dry heat is much more bearable than high humidity in addition to heat.
We were actually staying in the Escapees "The Ranch" RV park which you will know is located between Artesia and Carlsbad.

The folks at the RV park were nice enough but vast majority did not stay there during the summer. I'll have to disagree with how long the summer excess heat lasts though.


Our place in Arkansas is in the Ozark Mountains and sorta resembles Cloudcroft in some ways (except we have lakes and rivers). Not quite the elevation but lots of trees and mountain terrain.
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And a little off the mark but, we loved that Burger King. Ate there a zillion times going to/from our mountain home until they remodeled and maybe the owner (which I had visited with) sold? Whatever, it sure seemed to go downhill real fast.
The one in Artesia? Yeah we ate there several times. It got really bad during covid. For a while they didn't have hamburger patties as I recall. The Pecos Diamond was our favorite restaurant in Artesia but it closed during the pandemic. There were a couple of good restaurants in Roswell (we really liked the Italian one). If you like Mexican (I don't) no shortage of good ones but really good BBQ or fish was missing. I guess I am spoiled by all the good fish and BBQ around here and on the Gulf Coast.
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We stayed a night in Gallup while passing through. Glad to make it out alive. It looks like the end of the road for a lot of folks. In all fairness, we didn't see enough of the state to make a fair judgement but we saw enough to kill off any curiosity about the rest of it.
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In the almost three years we've been full timing we've criss crossed NM about every way one can. Like any other state it has good and bad areas from desolate desert to beautiful snowy mountains.

For anyone that's the least bit curious I would put the VLA on your bucket list. Like the Grand Canyon..... there are no words to adequately describe it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_Large_Array

The one section we were very sorry we went to was down the "Death Highway".

We had no idea what we were getting into. It's for folks working the oil field and if you don't need to be on it. Don't go on it. It was a white knuckle drive the whole way.

https://searchlightnm.org/death-highway/
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In the almost three years we've been full timing we've criss crossed NM about every way one can. Like any other state it has good and bad areas from desolate desert to beautiful snowy mountains.

For anyone that's the least bit curious I would put the VLA on your bucket list. Like the Grand Canyon..... there are no words to adequately describe it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_Large_Array

The one section we were very sorry we went to was down the "Death Highway".

We had no idea what we were getting into. It's for folks working the oil field and if you don't need to be on it. Don't go on it. It was a white knuckle drive the whole way.

https://searchlightnm.org/death-highway/


That highway and the others out there used to be scenic and quiet allowing you to just amble along looking, a vehicle seldom seen. Now, it is pure insanity plus being very dangerous. I had a guy tell me not long ago that he sat for 3 hours to get on 285 at Orla. He said the line at the stop sign was so long you could not see one end or the other - miles. Those are old what I call farm to market roads never meant for those kinds of vehicles or that much traffic.
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