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04-18-2020, 08:05 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Waynesville
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Now what ?????
We have no lights electric anywhere in the new trailer. I am plugged into 50 amp service which is on and hot to the trailer connection. I have tried every switch, breaker, and checked all of the fuse's they are all on and no red lights on the fuse panel. I can't start the generator. SO what went wrong. Everything was working earlier. HELP>>>>>
Charlie
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04-18-2020, 08:09 PM
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Site Team
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Is it just the 12V lights or the 120V lights or both? I am guessing someone futzed with the battery disconnect switch in the convenience center if just the 12V are not working.
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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04-18-2020, 08:16 PM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl n Susan
Is it just the 12V lights or the 120V lights or both? I am guessing someone futzed with the battery disconnect switch in the convenience center if just the 12V are not working.
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Its everything. No refrigerator no lights no outlets
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04-18-2020, 08:30 PM
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Site Team
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Is there 120V at the 50 Amp breakers in the fuse box? Do you by chance have an EMS (Progressive) inboard (as opposed to the portable versions). If yes, what does the display say?
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Carl (n Susan)
There is more to life than fuel mileage.
2012 Montana 3700RL Big Sky Package towed by a 2015 Ford F350 6.7L PSD 4WD CC LWB
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04-18-2020, 08:34 PM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #25947
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl n Susan
Is there 120V at the 50 Amp breakers in the fuse box? Do you by chance have an EMS (Progressive) inboard (as opposed to the portable versions). If yes, what does the display say?
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THere is nothing on the display they are all off. I do have 50 amp service that is hot at the plug in.
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04-18-2020, 08:36 PM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #25947
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl n Susan
Is there 120V at the 50 Amp breakers in the fuse box? Do you by chance have an EMS (Progressive) inboard (as opposed to the portable versions). If yes, what does the display say?
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The trailer is dead in the water. Nothing on nothing working...
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04-18-2020, 08:35 PM
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I would suspect an issue with your pedestal couple with dead batteries if it has been setting for awhile. What is your battery voltage? Have you been staying in it or has it been sitting?
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2018 3160RL
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04-18-2020, 08:38 PM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AZ Traveler
I would suspect an issue with your pedestal couple with dead batteries if it has been setting for awhile. What is your battery voltage? Have you been staying in it or has it been sitting?
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Its been sitting in our driveway with shore power pluged in. The last time that I looked at the display it show the battery's were 98% and the shore was at 118 volts
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04-18-2020, 08:38 PM
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Site Team
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Can you try a different source of shore power even it is not 50 amp?
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"Life is too short to stay indoors, enjoy the ride!"
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04-18-2020, 08:39 PM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AZ Traveler
Can you try a different source of shore power even it is not 50 amp?
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DId that no good
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04-18-2020, 08:41 PM
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Site Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie 3931fb
DId that no good
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What is your battery voltage?
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"Life is too short to stay indoors, enjoy the ride!"
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04-18-2020, 08:42 PM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #25947
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AZ Traveler
What is your battery voltage?
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With my hand held metter 13.8 volts
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04-18-2020, 08:45 PM
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Site Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie 3931fb
With my hand held metter 13.8 volts
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That should give you 12 volt systems unless the batteries are disconnected.
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2018 3160RL
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04-18-2020, 08:46 PM
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Montana Master
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is there another breaker that is not in the box that is a main switch somewhere else in the trailer?
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04-27-2020, 09:37 AM
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Call Progressive, I did and they helped tremendously.
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04-18-2020, 08:38 PM
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Montana Master
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If your battery disconnect switch is ON (normal position) and you still have no power...
Here is a link to Progressive Dynamics power panels.
https://www.progressivedyn.com/suppo...ooting-guides/
You need to find your model and follow the troubleshooting guide.
You will need a multimeter.
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04-18-2020, 08:41 PM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #25947
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daryles
If your battery disconnect switch is ON (normal position) and you still have no power...
Here is a link to Progressive Dynamics power panels.
https://www.progressivedyn.com/suppo...ooting-guides/
You need to find your model and follow the troubleshooting guide.
You will need a multimeter. |
That will be something that may be over my head. I am not good with electrical things
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04-18-2020, 08:45 PM
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Montana Fan
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charlie you say it is hot at the plug in, are you sure? do you have a volt meter you can check it with? that is where you need to start
al meyer 3931fb
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04-18-2020, 08:46 PM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahdmeyer
charlie you say it is hot at the plug in, are you sure? do you have a volt meter you can check it with? that is where you need to start
al meyer 2821fb
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Yes it is hot and on with my meter
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04-18-2020, 08:44 PM
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Site Team
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Given the pedestal is hot (I assume it has been checked with a VOM), then there is a break between there and the CBs in the fuse panel. First I would check the 50 amp power cord to ensure it has voltage at the connection to the RV end.
The internal wiring comes from the plug at the rear to the ATS (transfer switch) to the EMS and then to the CBs. As the EMS has no power, look closely at the ATS. Does it have power coming in and going out?
You mentioned the generator up above. What has been going on with it?
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