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02-22-2020, 04:23 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Fairhaven
Posts: 78
M.O.C. #17426
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Gelcoat issue, need advice
My friend just signed papers on a 2014 keystone alpine fifth wheel that was on consignment at a local dealer. Today he want back to look at it and started noticing an issue with the gelcoat on the front curbside. This was not visual the other day when I went and looked at it but when he started touching it, small round pieces of gelcoat starting falling off. Attached are pictures. What could have caused this and should he back out of the deal, have them repair it, or use it to get a higher discount.
Thank you
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02-22-2020, 05:41 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: 1000 oaks
Posts: 953
M.O.C. #19630
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RUN RUN RUN.
Water will get in those spots and the wall will rot.
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2022 GMC 2500HD Duramax/Alison
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02-22-2020, 07:15 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Haysville
Posts: 4,261
M.O.C. #3085
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It looks like someone had or did a shade tree structural/skin repair, tried to be rid of it, and got caught. Why would your friend want to buy something that is already disintegrating before his very eyes? No amount of discount would smooth this issue over for me.
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02-22-2020, 07:30 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: lake stevens
Posts: 504
M.O.C. #24938
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Those look just like voids which used to used to be common in the boat industry especially with Chopped production. It is possible to detect voids as most likely there are more. Moister gets in those voids via pores and that breaks down what ever bond is there. If this was a boat would be a major expense as all void would need to be discovered ground out and repaired then you cannot re-gelcoat you wold need to epoxy or paint. $10K-20K easy assuming more voids.
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02-23-2020, 04:36 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Fairhaven
Posts: 78
M.O.C. #17426
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He just discover Ed this damage yesterday. I went and looked at this camper last week and this was not visual. The dealer did move the camper since then so I’m thinking that the flex of the trailer might have popped them
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02-23-2020, 04:47 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Appling
Posts: 176
M.O.C. #20840
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Walk away! There are way too many used 5ver's out there to buy something with known and obvious issues.
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2017 3791RD, MORryde SRE4000 w/ X Factor
2017 Ford F350 Lariat, CC, LB, PSD, DRW, 4WD, Curt Q24
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03-01-2020, 02:01 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Holcombe
Posts: 113
M.O.C. #12193
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Dont walk away RUN
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03-01-2020, 02:05 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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The lesson learned here is what??
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03-01-2020, 02:06 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Georgetown
Posts: 305
M.O.C. #18751
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RUN Forest, RUN.
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03-01-2020, 03:26 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Dover
Posts: 75
M.O.C. #15866
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Nothing but a headache. RUN
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2012 F250 6.7 long bed with B&W Hitch
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03-01-2020, 05:44 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Hilliards
Posts: 237
M.O.C. #25636
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New tennis shoes would be better! RUN!
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2021 F350 DRW 6.7 Powerstroke 
Retired and Rollin'!
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03-02-2020, 08:37 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: SWFL
Posts: 964
M.O.C. #17801
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I'd be less concerned about repairing it now, rather than what caused the previous repairs to fail. It might be an underlying issue.
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2005 Ford F350, 6.0 diesel, short bed
Demco Hitchiker Auto Slide hitch
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03-07-2020, 02:42 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sun Lakes, AZ 85248
Posts: 179
M.O.C. #9174
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If the papers are signed and the dealership is washing their hands - that's too bad. If you are stuck with this trailer there are some courses of action. Number one, immediately go to the Better Business Bureau and file a complaint. It has worked for me every time. Even if the RV dealership is not a member they will be contacted by the BBB - it will be recorded. Secondly, a good gelcoat repairman should be able to take care of this without difficulty. Also, if the dealer has a FaceBook page you can post a photo and an explanation of the dealership's attitude. Before you try to dump it and take a big loss - look for other solutions, you won't be the first person this happened to. Talk to repair shops.
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2021 Montana 3121RL Legacy
2017 Ford F250 6.7 diesel
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03-07-2020, 04:18 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Fairhaven
Posts: 78
M.O.C. #17426
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The dealer gave them the option to bail out no problems, they decided to buy it because they loved the trailer, the dealer took another $2k off and are repairing it
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03-07-2020, 07:16 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: lake stevens
Posts: 504
M.O.C. #24938
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hedgehog
The dealer gave them the option to bail out no problems, they decided to buy it because they loved the trailer, the dealer took another $2k off and are repairing it
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I would recommend they scan the entire 5er for more voides that have not presented yet, That can be easily done either with a hand scanner or an the very least a composite mallet tapping out the sides you will easily here the difference if there are more voids.
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03-08-2020, 07:11 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Auburn
Posts: 879
M.O.C. #18474
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Take it to a boat or RV collision center and they can repair it quickly.
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03-08-2020, 08:32 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Fairhaven
Posts: 78
M.O.C. #17426
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Dealer is repairing it and charging the previous owner. It is on consignment.
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03-08-2020, 10:08 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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Good luck
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03-08-2020, 11:39 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: lake stevens
Posts: 504
M.O.C. #24938
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hedgehog
Dealer is repairing it and charging the previous owner. It is on consignment.
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Yes but are they repairing only the obvious? what about the likely voids that have not presented yet. All voids need to be discovered ground out, filled with Epoxy then surface painted, this is not an easy or cheap fix to do right.
Bayliner had this problem it damn near bankrupted them and they were the largest Boat manufacture in the world.
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03-08-2020, 02:32 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Fairhaven
Posts: 78
M.O.C. #17426
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My friend is aware. I advised him to walk away but they fell in love with the rig. This is also there first and they are not sure wether they will upgrade to something else after this unit or get out of camping. So his standpoint is he is getting into camping for $30k. He will either like it and trade up to a toyhauler or dump it.
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