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06-15-2016, 09:19 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Redding
Posts: 1,421
M.O.C. #12339
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Ford activated the Build feature 2017 Superduty
I will begin with a short disclaimer. I love my current truck, but I am a new vehicle junkie! I can't help myself. This is also not a truck bashing thread... That said, I built on Fords Website a 2017 F450 fully outfitted, with a few options I liked, and can't live without, dual sunroofs, inflation seatbelts, built in safe. Oh and yes, I like every option! Seven cameras, tow/trailer park assist, and a entire set of new features available. It was like being a kid again, looking at the Sears catalog, waiting for Christmas! The new truck has a 176 inch wheelbase, and promised more HP /Torque. So the final retail number $87,988.00. I paid much less than retail for my truck in 2013, but that's about $9500.00 more than my retail sticker was on my current 2014 truck.
So all that's left is Sue! Yes, it will be a hard sell in deed. Figure it be 2018 model before I can get her soften up? New Truck will require new RV...got some work ahead of me. Want my will to read "being of sound mind, he spent all his money before he died"!
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06-16-2016, 02:34 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Know how you feel. My wife has given me the green light for a new truck in 2017, have also priced the replacement. Sure want to see what it looks like, with the body changes. Internet pictures, looks like a GMC. With the hype on body change in 2017, was looking for something major that would shake me up with excitement. Suspect I will like the looks of my 2011 better and keep it.
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Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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06-16-2016, 02:45 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,671
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That is the reason I don't go look at the new trucks , I'd won't one. Where we would differ I do not like a sun roof.
Lynwood
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06-16-2016, 02:56 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Hanover
Posts: 1,473
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Wouldn't even try talking LOML into a new truck - have enough problems talking her into a new mower to replace my 14 year old one!
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06-16-2016, 07:00 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Washington Coast
Posts: 2,688
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I just cannot bring my self to lay out 87K or a new Dually,Would love to have the extra power etc.. But MAN these rigs cost more than my Monty ,I think I will stick with my good Ole 2007 GMC BUT if Somebody would "loan" me 87K I would change my mind real quick
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06-16-2016, 07:43 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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Living here in Ford Country and knowing many Ford workers and retirees we get a Pin Number every year for the friends and family plan we have a good pin number now.Will have t o look that one up.
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06-16-2016, 08:24 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,363
M.O.C. #6433
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In 1986 we bought a new Nissan Maxima for $13,500, more than our first house. Now the prices are racing toward the price of our much larger house. Don't think I can spring for that.
Don't know about F450's. But F250/350 sell for around invoice minus any rebates in this area. That was about $14,000 off sticker on my F350, well below invoice. But even that leaves a steep price on these new ones.
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Bill & Patricia
Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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06-16-2016, 09:41 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,671
M.O.C. #2283
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My home I built it my self for $20000 and a new truck is 86.
Lynwood
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06-16-2016, 12:17 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
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Only way I could do that is if I was spending your money
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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06-17-2016, 01:38 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Anytown
Posts: 621
M.O.C. #10966
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Just bought a "new" more expensive home...a new truck is NOT in the near future for me!
However, Artemus... if you are going to be selling your current truck, let me know I might be able to upgrade to a "newer" truck...even if it's not a Dodge Ram!
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2011 Montana 3580RL, Reese 20k GooseBox w/offset B&W ball, Sailuns, RoadMaster shocks, Splendide stacked washer/dryer, Progressive HW50C, some other stuff...
2015 Ram 3500 DRW Laramie Megacab, Aisin w/3.73s, 255/80 17 Toyos A/T III, rear auto level, 40 gal. fuel/tool combo box, B&W Turnover ball,
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06-17-2016, 04:34 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Grain valley
Posts: 356
M.O.C. #5098
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Artemus, What Rear End did you spec? I have the 3:73 on my current truck and like it but it looks to be not available on the 2017 F350 dually, diesel. They offer the 4:10 or 3:55. Maybe with the increased torque and HP the 3:55 would pull OK and still get decent fuel mileage???? Your thoughts???
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06-17-2016, 05:42 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Redding
Posts: 1,421
M.O.C. #12339
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Bruce I believe the F450 4.10 is all they offer. It's on my current rig. My mileage has been excellent in my opinion! I did understand the wider front axle can now be ordered on the F350. That has been a big advantage in turning radius the F450 had over other HD trucks!
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06-18-2016, 01:51 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Grain valley
Posts: 356
M.O.C. #5098
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Artemus Thanks for your reply What kind of fuel mileage are you getting? I am getting between 10 to 11 with the 3:73 gears pulling about 15K pounds on my SOB. Also why do you choose a F450 over a F350?
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06-18-2016, 06:16 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Redding
Posts: 1,421
M.O.C. #12339
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Getting 12-14 towing with my Montana. I had planned to go bigger on an SOB but Heath issues stop it for now. The other reasons were great resale of the F450s and much better turning radius. The F450s wheels are set out further allowing very sharp turning radius.
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06-18-2016, 06:28 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: West Richland
Posts: 1,253
M.O.C. #17164
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I guess I will need to go check out the build site. I always wanted bigger running gear with 19 1/2" tires. I would prefer the SRW with higher load capacity verse the DRW. Just my own desires, I have seen soon DRW trucks modified to this setup.
Tom Marty
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06-18-2016, 06:36 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Redding
Posts: 1,421
M.O.C. #12339
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I don't think the SW has higher load capacity then the F450?
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06-18-2016, 07:43 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: West Richland
Posts: 1,253
M.O.C. #17164
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Oh I am not thinking that you can get higher rating with SRW than with a 450 or even 350 DRW. What I want is a SRW with a bolt on 19 1/2" wheel so I can get way more weight rating than the current SRW rims and tires offer.
Tom Marty
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06-19-2016, 05:27 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
Posts: 2,865
M.O.C. #7871
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As a retired guy, and traveling more, I can't see me paying nearly $90k for a truck and $80k for a Montana. If in the market for a new RV, I'd be looking for a nice used diesel pusher MH.
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06-19-2016, 06:04 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Redding
Posts: 1,421
M.O.C. #12339
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That puts you in a new situation all together. My friend with diesel pushers tell me about how much they spend. Tires plus $120.00 shop times, no I stick with fivers. Lol.
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06-21-2016, 02:48 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: St Peters
Posts: 38
M.O.C. #17978
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We have a 2016 Ford F350 6.7 with 3:55 rear end and have no complaints. The response on the highway has been very good and it handles hills nicely with minimum turbo boost required. Mountains will be another issue.
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