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02-16-2008, 04:02 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Box Elder
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M.O.C. #7142
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Toilet not holdng water!
For some reason our toilet seal has stopped working. We have cleaned the seal and put vaseline on the seal and it only works sometimes.
Any suggestions?
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02-16-2008, 04:43 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sissonville
Posts: 39
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First thing you can check is the collar between the bowl and the base. There are two screws check to be sure they are snug, caution do not over tighten. If they are already good and snug. Then the gasket needs to be replaced. My did the same thing. New gasket and spring was replaced under warrenty 9-07. It is still ok today. If you replace seal there is a notch on seal that has to fit in place,easly seen. I know first hand had to take mine apart and fix. Service person did not get notch in place causing water to run in floor after a couple of uses and we were away from dealer. Glad to answer any other questions you might have. Gary
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02-16-2008, 05:25 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
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Dave and Teresa, this might be a longshot but it works on ours even when trying to clean the seal doesn't take care of it. It seems little pieces of tissue or other material get caught in the groove, allowing the water to slowly drip out. What works for us is to push the pedal and let it slap back hard three or four times. You'd think that would just pack the residue more tightly into the groove but for some reason it works. We've used this method several times over the past year and a half. Maybe the residue is natural matter and that's why it works.?
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02-16-2008, 05:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Grand Blanc
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We have used the same method Steve writes about successfully. We were able to use the clean and Vaselene method just this morning but have used the "slapping" method when it has not worked in the past.
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02-16-2008, 06:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
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Same as above..One never knows if there will be water in there or not. We have replaced seals..still found no water in bowl on occasion. I am convinced it is microscopic bits of debris that do the deed and slapping and keeping it clean works the best. Sometimes doing that accompanied with muttering and cursing helps...
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02-16-2008, 09:28 AM
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Montana Master
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Location: Santa Fe Springs
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I had that problem on my toilet but mine was the ball valve type gate not the blade gate. I went to C World and got that coconut base lubercant they sell it stoped the problem for me.
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02-16-2008, 10:02 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Texas City
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Mine is the Sealand and has the ball type. The manual states to let the pedal release so that the valve "slaps" back into place creating a good seal. However, there is a recall on Sealand and the dealer knows about it. It calls for not only replacing the seal, but the spring that holds the ball closed. It seems the ones that don't work properly have a weak spring. Mine had the kit replacement done by the dealer 4 weeks ago, and I checked 4 days ago and water was still holding in the bowl.
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02-16-2008, 12:07 PM
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Montana Master
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Daggon Wayne, you haven't used the bathroom in four days. Now that is what I call a dry camper extraordinaire!! Ha Ha.
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02-16-2008, 04:16 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Texas City
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I'll stick with the topic of toilets and say that the Toto, and American Standard, here in the stick house hold water well. Short walk from the 42" plasma TV running HD Satellite on the Dish Network. Although there was a storm this evening and I had to watch a pre-recorded movie. Hanna is dry in her hanger with electricity hooked up about 10 miles from here. And - she's still holding her water!!!!
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02-17-2008, 02:18 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Ogden
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Our Sealand in our '06 did the same thing. We called Sealand and they sent a kit with an 'old design' seal and spring that has been working fine ever since. I installed this without much trouble to save a trip to the dealer. The 'new' seal had a thin rubber seal that would kink as the ball closed. The 'old design' had a thicker rubber seal that does not do this. Hope this helps you.
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02-18-2008, 04:51 AM
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Montana Master
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I got the new springpack for our SeaLand last year. I'd called them about another problem and they said we need the new springpack. They sent it free of charge and I installed it. But we still have times the bowl goes dry. Particularly at night. I figured debris is getting caught in there at night when it's dark. Ours also has the ball valve.
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