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12-14-2013, 06:57 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Healdsburg
Posts: 273
M.O.C. #13339
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Short Bed?
With the "new" style front ends on the Montana's.. how do short bet p/u's work without slider hitches. Seems like the critical part was the front outside edges contacting/busting out rear p/u windows and worse.
I'm thinking seriously about getting rid of my 05 Chev diesel CC long bed 4/4. It's a great truck. Currently has the BW Companion hitch and works like a charm.. but.. it's soooo long. IMO
I'd likely stick with diesel 3/4T with either a regular or stretch cab. I need the 4x4 only to back it up my steep driveway.
What say ye? Just trying to shorten my footprint. I'm guessing the overall stability and comfort might be best with the LWB.
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12-14-2013, 07:08 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Crossville
Posts: 184
M.O.C. #10367
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Ive had short beds since 2006 and pulled a SOB and now a Montana and I never have had a problem. I do have a slider hitch but I have never had a situation where I needed to use it.
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2012 3455SA
2013 Ram 3500 Swd
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12-14-2013, 07:44 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Redlands
Posts: 460
M.O.C. #9135
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I have a Chevy with a standard bed. I've installed a slider but have yet to use it either.
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2011 3150RL
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12-14-2013, 07:47 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Rock Island
Posts: 1,074
M.O.C. #10457
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Had the short bed single wheel and liked it, but did not have a slider and was always flinching when turning sharp, many have a slider with on issues in a short bed. What I think would be great would be to have a Crew Cab with F450 4x4 capacities in a short bed SRW version.
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12-14-2013, 08:20 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,361
M.O.C. #6433
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Good friend had a short bed, no slider, and an SOB 5er with squared off front corners. Knocked out his back window on a tight back in turn.
Traded the SOB for a Montana with contoured front corners and no more problem. But I am sure he was a little more conscious of his turns also.
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Bill & Patricia
Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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12-14-2013, 08:20 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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As long as I am pulling fifth wheels, my truck will be a long bed.
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Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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12-14-2013, 01:36 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Arroyo City
Posts: 3,110
M.O.C. #13395
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I noticed the longer wheel base rides better
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12-14-2013, 01:52 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
Posts: 2,865
M.O.C. #7871
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by 1retired06
As long as I am pulling fifth wheels, my truck will be a long bed.
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Same here.
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12-14-2013, 01:53 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Northport
Posts: 439
M.O.C. #12726
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FYI, We have always pulled FWs with a short bed diesel truck, but before we signed the papers on our Mountaineer we had them hook it up to check the turns.
Absolutely no problem and we have never used a slider hitch.
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12-14-2013, 02:30 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Rancho Santa Margarita
Posts: 633
M.O.C. #13025
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I have the older style front and a slider hitch. I have seen several trucks with dents to both sides of rear window due to contact with 5er.
It might not be a problem with newer style front. I didn't want to be in a spot that I need a slide and not have it.
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Russ and Linda, So. California
2004 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD, D/A, SRW, SB
2005 2955RL, Pullrite Superglide 16K hitch. Bridgestone Duravis R500 tires. EZ Flex Equilizers with wet bolts.EMS HW50C, Disk brakes
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12-14-2013, 02:48 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Troy
Posts: 1,980
M.O.C. #808
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by K0LCB
I noticed the longer wheel base rides better
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I had a sb for over 11 years with a slider that I never used. I now have a dually and would never go back to a 3/4 sb. Just MHO.
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12-14-2013, 02:49 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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Since we have a Maxi Cab we have a long wheelbase and a short bed. I have a slider by never use it even to back the Monty backwards in a U shape around a mobile home where we stayed last year. I do have Joyce watch it and am ready to hit the brake anytime she tells me but we've never had to.
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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12-14-2013, 03:53 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Frostproof, FL USA
Posts: 2,362
M.O.C. #13272
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I can't hit my cab of my short bed F350, and I have tried. But like others I purchased the slider thinking I would need it. I guess the only good thing I can say about spending the extra bucks is that I would be good to go if I ever had to pull a SOB that wasn't designed like my Monte's front end.
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Previous: 2008 Montana 3400RL & 2014 3725RL
Current: Full Time 2022 SOB TT Toy Hauler
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12-16-2013, 01:06 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Posts: 2,727
M.O.C. #7992
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I have a shortbed, have a slider, use it often. Don't know that I need it often but it is a simple operation to slide the 5'er and seems to make backing a bit easier. My 06 does not have the newer style front cap and sliding the rig back just gives me one less thing to worry about. Jim
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2009 Ram 2500
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12-16-2013, 01:36 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 534
M.O.C. #13378
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Add me to the short bed folks.
My 2012 F-250 4x4 crew cab short bed is a big enough pain when parking in parking lots; it always becomes a multi-stage maneuver, I can't imagine how much more of a hassle that would be with a long bed and/or dually.
I've only had to use my slider once this past year, that's when I had to back into my brother-in-law's long driveway from the dirt road in front of his home; the cut I had to make exceeded 90°. Otherwise I works fine. Oh yeah, it gets close, but the Monte doesn't touch the back window of my truck. It's nice that Monte has those truncated corners!
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12-16-2013, 02:12 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Tampa
Posts: 532
M.O.C. #10378
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The amount of time your truck tows vs. doing everyday tasks makes it more attractive for a short bed for the ease of driving, parking, and maneuvering in places designed for cars not long bed dual wheel behemoths. Add to that, your overall hitched length being shorter, will make it easier in tight campsite maneuvering. If your rig can be towed within the overall limitations of a short bed, go for it. As far as the hitch goes, I had a slider installed and have never used it.
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12-16-2013, 03:34 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Copperas Cove
Posts: 1,426
M.O.C. #12096
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If you have a short bed you usually want a slider hitch for those just in case situations. I had one and yes never used it. You can usually avoid turning that tight if you prior plan and avoid tight parking lots. Another reason is you don't want to turn that tight anyways since it puts a lot of stress on your tires.
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12-16-2013, 04:02 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Ione
Posts: 582
M.O.C. #11371
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F250 short bed with the B&W Companion hitch, no slider. My Big Sky has the round nose. The only thing I worried about was the axels when backing using tight turns so I installed the three X - Factor cross braces.
Frank
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12-16-2013, 05:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Fort Myers
Posts: 5,933
M.O.C. #4282
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GM makes a long bed (8"), standard bed (6.5') and a short beds (
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12-16-2013, 12:29 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
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Short bed with no slider. Never a problem because I agree with steelpony5555 about not putting too much stress on the tires and suspension.
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