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07-20-2013, 05:49 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Frostproof, FL USA
Posts: 2,362
M.O.C. #13272
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Do You Use a Cetane Booster
I go back and forth on diesel fuel additive. I have used Kleen additive and I know it increases my MPG by about 1.5 - 2 MPG when not towing. In the central part of the U.S. right now I am finding a big difference in fuel prices. Shell may have diesel for $3.99 and Kroger for $3.74. Who know the quality. Along with boosting cetane most additives add lubrication, which can't hurt. Is it worth the time and money to always use some type of additive for each fill-up, and which brand?
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07-20-2013, 07:21 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Arroyo City
Posts: 3,110
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I use additive about every 3 tanks, I don't know if it helps the truck, but it gives me peace of mind
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07-20-2013, 08:11 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Palmer
Posts: 1,526
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I use Kleen as well in almost every fill-up. It appears to increase the fuel mileage a little according to the on-board computer. But I do know it helps the truck run smoother. I am vigilant about using it in the winter (October - April) to prevent gel in the fuel system.
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07-20-2013, 08:26 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Washington Coast
Posts: 2,688
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On my 03 Duramax LB7 that has known injector issues I use Kleen every tankfull it quiets my injectors and I get a little increase in MPG, and I also use low ash 2 stroke oil every so often to lube then, On your 2012 6.7 I would think you would only have to use additives every once in a while
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07-20-2013, 09:29 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
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Haven't used anything at all (maybe we've just been lucky) and since we have a Kroger store card we buy gas and diesel from them everywhere we go and again no problems. The Kroger stores vary from Kroger it's self to Dillions in Kansas and Fry's in Arizona but we've never had a problem there.
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2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
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07-20-2013, 09:40 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Sebring
Posts: 3,657
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I've gone back and forth using Diesel Kleen. And have determined that different fuel has a bigger effect on MPG that just about anything else. I try and use Premium Diesel when I can, but less and less stations offer it. There was a post on another Diesel forum that listed the average Cetane ratings for the different major brands running from about 40 up to nearly 50, but I don't remember what forum I saw it on.
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Michelle & Ann
2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, Formally 2010 Montana 2955RL, Now Loaded 2016 SOB, Mor/ryde IS, Disc Brakes & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Sailun 17.5 Tires.
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07-20-2013, 10:12 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,133
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I have never used any additives. But I have tried to buy diesel with higher cetane ratings. Problem is that pumps are rarely labeled, and the attendants seem to have no idea what cetane is.
Here is some cetane rating info posted on another site. Have no idea how accurate it is.
BP (Amoco branded), 51;
Countrymark fuels Diesel-R, 50
Chevron, 49; or 51 with Techron D labels in select markets
ConocoPhillips through the 76 stations (California) 47-53
PetroCanada, 47-51
BP (Powerblend 47, otherwise 40-42)
Shell, 46;
Sinclair, 46;
Sunoco Gold, 45 (often +1-5) Sunoco regular is usually 40.
Exxon/Mobile, 43-46
Holiday Stations, 40-43
HESS, 40-42, can be up to 45.
Husky, 40 + diesel Max additives raise another 1-3 from there (41-45 max)
Love's: 40
Pilot: 40
Valero: 40
Sheetz: 40
Flying J, 40
Wawa, 40
The major truck stops seem to run the lowest cetane rating so I never buy my diesel there unless there is no other easy choice.
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07-20-2013, 10:28 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
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My 5.9 does just fine on any fuel without an additive, but I do add Kleen about every 5th fill up in the winter.
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07-20-2013, 10:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 657
M.O.C. #9178
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Use Kleen with every fill-up for the truck and both VW TDIs.
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07-20-2013, 11:12 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Cedar Rapids
Posts: 4,876
M.O.C. #1944
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I use Lucas Fuel Treatment. It is not a cetane booster. It provides injector lubrication. Cost about$30/gal at truck stops/AutoZone Parts stores.
Orv
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07-20-2013, 12:49 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 3,335
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I was never inclined to use any fuel additive until I had to have my turbo cleaned on my 2009 CTD because it sooted up and was losing power. Thankfully it was done under warranty. The dodge mechanic suggested that I use a cetane booster additive.
Long story short, I use Diesel Kleen (from Wally World) year round ( white in winter and silver in non freezing temps) and no more sooting turbo and it runs strong. I don't track my MPG (I didn't buy the truck for the great mileage) , but it runs great. I use the additive EVERY tankful. I'm convinced it's worth the $$ spent. JMHO
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07-20-2013, 01:54 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Nashville
Posts: 118
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I only use it in the Winter October to March in my 2012 Ford F250 6.7 to keep it from Gelling up. Not much in the Summer.
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07-20-2013, 03:25 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,528
M.O.C. #2283
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I use Stanadyne every tank. My feeling is, if you need it on one tank you need it on every tank. The Stanadyne will bring the cetane up to 46 using 8 oz per 30 gallons. Then I add 8 oz of cetane to bring it up to 50. The fuel systems on these trucks cost $8000+. If this helps preserve the fuel system it is well worth what it cost. I see no difference in the truck, no difference in noise, fuel mileage, the way it runs, nothing.
Lynwood
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07-20-2013, 04:00 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Garland
Posts: 450
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I use Opti-Lube XPD in my truck. I use 0.25 ounces/gallon in the summer and 0.5 ounces/gallon in the winter. Lab tests from several sources show higher cetane values promote longer engine life.
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07-21-2013, 04:33 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
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Since 2008 have been using CTAN additive. Prior to that Ford said not necessary, Since 2008 Ford dealer here in NC and Florida recommend usage and I buy mine from Walmart also.
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
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07-21-2013, 05:02 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Port Orchard
Posts: 1,153
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When I had my 2006 F350 with the 6.0L motor the service manager at the Ford dealership told me to use an additive due to carbon issues on the turbo variable pitch vains. I continue to use it with my 2011 F350 6.7 motor.
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07-21-2013, 08:50 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Santa Fe Springs
Posts: 4,189
M.O.C. #639
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I did on my ford for a few tanks full but didnt notice a big increese in milage and combining the cost of fuel, and all the other additives we are forced to put in our trucks for EPA reasons or the truck wont run along with cetane boosters. the price of fuel get out of control when added all together.
My 6.7 Ram dont need any help it is the perfect set-up for our 2980RL. so I dont buy any.
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07-22-2013, 02:53 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Primary reason I run CTAN is not to make the engine run better, but to make it run longer.
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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07-22-2013, 03:00 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Fayetteville
Posts: 657
M.O.C. #9178
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by 1retired06
Primary reason I run CTAN is not to make the engine run better, but to make it run longer.
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Agree!
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07-22-2013, 04:26 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,528
M.O.C. #2283
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These new trucks were actually designed to run on 50 cetane. A friend who has a tester for cetane checked fuel here and found some that was 37. An engine running on 50 cetane will produce less soot than one using 40 cetane fuel. So your truck will go into regen less often. Another big advantage to using an additive is they have lubrication in them that your high pressure fuel pump needs. It don't much to ruin a pump that will pump up to 30,000 psi. Your warranty normally wont cover the $8.000+ to replace it. To me the additive is cheap insurance.
Lynwood
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