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06-14-2020, 11:12 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2020
Location: UPLAND
Posts: 1,257
M.O.C. #26190
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Crushed Rails
This is what happens when you aren't locked into your 5th wheel hitch. You decide to drive off, without double checking and your only safety net (stabilizers) are already up. Expensive repair. Happened to a buddy at work. His beautiful F-250 Diesel needed a brand new bed. What's hysterical about this photo, it's from a Camping World service truck
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2019 Keystone Montana 3560RL, 2020 Chevy 2500 HD, Firestone airbags, Air Lift wireless compressor, Curt gooseneck, 20K Reese Goosebox, TST-507, USMC combat vet & retired LEO. Robert, Anika, Breanna, Dylan (daughter-in-law Stephanie). & our Great Pyrenees Layla
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06-14-2020, 12:04 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Waynesville
Posts: 533
M.O.C. #25947
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That does not surprise me on a service truck from Camping World. The lot people are 18 to 23 years old and they get into a hurry and away they go. That's why I am the only one that hooks up to my trailers. Also, I don't let anyone help me. I do it myself and I have never lost a trailer or pulled out from underneath one.
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Charlie & Sofia
Sawyer (The Lawyer) Buster Brown Fur - babies
46 years married (Dam I been in prison that long)
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06-14-2020, 12:32 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Posts: 2,707
M.O.C. #7992
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All most every dealership that handles a high volume of 5th wheels has a truck just like that.
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2006 3000RK
2009 Ram 2500
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06-14-2020, 02:13 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Waynesville
Posts: 533
M.O.C. #25947
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimcol
All most every dealership that handles a high volume of 5th wheels has a truck just like that.
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Notice that the tail gate is missing. I wounder what that looks like? LOL
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Charlie & Sofia
Sawyer (The Lawyer) Buster Brown Fur - babies
46 years married (Dam I been in prison that long)
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06-19-2020, 10:58 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2020
Location: UPLAND
Posts: 1,257
M.O.C. #26190
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie 3931fb
Notice that the tail gate is missing. I wounder what that looks like? LOL
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Yes, it probably was pushed into the cab of the truck
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2019 Keystone Montana 3560RL, 2020 Chevy 2500 HD, Firestone airbags, Air Lift wireless compressor, Curt gooseneck, 20K Reese Goosebox, TST-507, USMC combat vet & retired LEO. Robert, Anika, Breanna, Dylan (daughter-in-law Stephanie). & our Great Pyrenees Layla
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06-19-2020, 10:04 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: New Port Richey
Posts: 438
M.O.C. #14092
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 432bartman
Yes, it probably was pushed into the cab of the truck
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How? He was pulling away not backing up.
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2012 Silverado 3500HD|4x4|Crew Cab|long bed|Dually
2012 Montana 3750FL
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06-24-2020, 01:47 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: South East NC
Posts: 1,768
M.O.C. #19865
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimcol
All most every dealership that handles a high volume of 5th wheels has a truck just like that.
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I’ve never seen it at CW but have seen one at another chain and one at a big mom and pop lot. It happens when not paying attention to anyone
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06-19-2020, 12:45 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Posts: 2,707
M.O.C. #7992
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They NEVER leave the tail gate on their yard truck!!
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2009 Ram 2500
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06-19-2020, 12:55 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,553
M.O.C. #2283
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That is one thing that is nice about the new aluminum Ford trucks. My 2018 was broadsided and ruined the quarter panel. You take the rivets out paint a new quarter panel and put it back together. No welding or bondo required.
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06-19-2020, 01:30 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Cuyahoga Falls
Posts: 699
M.O.C. #18572
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Unfortunately, for anyone towing a fifth wheel, this is not a matter of if, it’s when.
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Rule #1. The Chief is always right.
Rule #2. When in doubt, refer to rule #1.
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06-20-2020, 05:45 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Alexandria
Posts: 352
M.O.C. #12394
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JABURKHOLDER
Unfortunately, for anyone towing a fifth wheel, this is not a matter of if, it’s when.
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Which is why I put the Blue Ox Bed Saver on. Just in case
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06-20-2020, 07:21 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chasnracin
Which is why I put the Blue Ox Bed Saver on. Just in case
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Same here. Had one on the Reese and have one on our Curt. Believe Blue Ox quit making certain series two or three years ago, at least for the Curt, other brands out there.
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Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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06-20-2020, 07:30 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Wilsey
Posts: 18,799
M.O.C. #11455
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Kind of depends on the trailer. Had an idiot I was moving a rig for not lock his landing gear and drop an older Jayco on our old truck. Left white marks on the truck, but all damage was to the Jayco. Just another reason we don't own a Jayco.
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Dick, Joyce, Diego, Picatso and Gustav
2017 3720 RL, and 2013 HC 343RL
Pullrite Hitch, IS, Disk Brakes, 3rd AC, Winegard Traveler, Bathroom door mod, Dometic 320, couch for desk swap, replaced chairs, sun screens, added awnings, etc.
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06-24-2020, 02:01 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Tyler
Posts: 186
M.O.C. #20704
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JABURKHOLDER
Unfortunately, for anyone towing a fifth wheel, this is not a matter of if, it’s when.
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I may be missing something here so help me understand. You hook up to your fiver, secure the latching jaws with safety pin, plug in your pigtail, close tailgate on truck and complete your walkaround. Jacks are up. Tug test with trailer brakes before leaving site. How does this happen with jaws on hitched closed and double checked?
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06-24-2020, 02:50 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Cedar Park
Posts: 135
M.O.C. #17531
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Unfortunately, distraction is how it happens. It happens when one becomes distracted as in spouse hollers "come here quick" and you had not extended the jacks yet. When you return in a huff 20 min later, frustrated at whatever problem was bugging the spouse, you get in and pull away only to hear a very loud thud. That's just one scenario. I know that from experience.
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Jack & Rebecca
2015 Montana High Country
2006 Ford F250 SWB, 4X4, 6.0 diesel
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06-24-2020, 04:05 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Kingsport
Posts: 55
M.O.C. #25935
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Me2
Brand new 2014 RAM 2500, landing gear collapsed just as the pin touched the hitch. Finally got it fixed this year, $1000 per side (looked just like the pic above). Great local body shop, was able to straighten them instead of replacing them. And the RAM quarters can be replaced without doing the whole bed.
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06-24-2020, 04:55 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Mesa
Posts: 279
M.O.C. #24588
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxwellD
I may be missing something here so help me understand. You hook up to your fiver, secure the latching jaws with safety pin, plug in your pigtail, close tailgate on truck and complete your walkaround. Jacks are up. Tug test with trailer brakes before leaving site. How does this happen with jaws on hitched closed and double checked?
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I can tell you how...Start with a Pullrite slider hitch, secure it as you have explained, then at a fuel station stop, someone parks their minivan in front of the most convenient diesel pump and goes inside to eat, use bathroom, get a drink, ad finte nauseam, so you decide to do a 180 degree turn in the parking lot to use another pump. In the process of the turn, the emergency breakaway cable gets caught on something in the bed, pulls out the emergency breakaway pin and voila, the trailer brakes engage. As the turn is completed, the 40' trailer leverages the slider hitch and tears the jaws out of the hitch. What happens next you already know. Please don't ask how I know all of this. Today's diesel trucks develop so much torque, the resistance was barely noticeable and was mistaken for the drag of the slider hitch doing it's thing.
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06-25-2020, 06:36 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Hesston
Posts: 735
M.O.C. #25060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by firestation12
I can tell you how...Start with a Pullrite slider hitch, secure it as you have explained,... In the process of the turn, the emergency breakaway cable gets caught on something in the bed, pulls out the emergency breakaway pin and voila, the trailer brakes engage. As the turn is completed, the 40' trailer leverages the slider hitch and tears the jaws out of the hitch. ...
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I've only had PullRite hitches with all of the 5ers that we've had, and I'm very intimate with how the jaws work on those hitches.
I would really like to understand how the jaws could have separated or bent or moved or ripped away. I can't see how the action of locking up the brakes would cause the jaws to fail. That could happen at anytime, even driving straight, and potentially make the jaws fail. That concerns me a little bit, still having a PullRite hitch.
On a side note, I never pulled my breakaway cable off, but it did get caught in the slider, and got mangled. There is an easy fix for this for anyone that has a PullRite slider. Shorten your breakaway cable so that it attaches to the head unit of the hitch, and when attached, doesn't have enough slack to touch the sliding mechanism. The trailer and the head unit turn at the same rate, so it will never get in anything as you're turning...
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2020 Montana 3741FK
2020 Chevy SRW 3500HD Duramax/Allison High Country
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06-24-2020, 07:03 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Fullerton
Posts: 209
M.O.C. #22148
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The distraction comes when your significant other or children want something done immediately inside the trailer or house. That’s my excuse. LOL
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Donjamin & Laurie
Fullerton, CA
2016 Montana Legacy, 3160RL
2015 Ford F-250 SD 4X4
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06-24-2020, 02:42 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Cedar Park
Posts: 135
M.O.C. #17531
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JABURKHOLDER
Unfortunately, for anyone towing a fifth wheel, this is not a matter of if, it’s when.
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That is the gospel truth.....
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Jack & Rebecca
2015 Montana High Country
2006 Ford F250 SWB, 4X4, 6.0 diesel
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