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05-30-2020, 08:32 AM
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Montana Master
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Every trip begins with the thought, you have that. The second step is the plan you are doing that. Then you take the trip. You are ready for that.
Lynwood
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05-30-2020, 08:44 AM
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Montana Master
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Location: Menifee
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Yeah I’m going to do it. I’m going to order the transfer switch, and do what others suggested. Mount the switch by the breaker, cut the line from the shore power while leaving the wires in the breaker, and run 8g wire to the new plug. Do I need to run the wires in a conduit to the front plug?
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05-30-2020, 10:12 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #2283
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Last2Die
Yeah I’m going to do it. I’m going to order the transfer switch, and do what others suggested. Mount the switch by the breaker, cut the line from the shore power while leaving the wires in the breaker, and run 8g wire to the new plug. Do I need to run the wires in a conduit to the front plug?
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No run 6 gage wire. I made a mistake it’s 6 gage wire.
You can run smaller wire to the receptacle if you are going to use a 3500 watt or smaller generator. 10 gage is good for 3600 watts. That is what I used on my transfer switch but mine is a 30 amp system.
Lynwood
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05-30-2020, 10:52 AM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #22986
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlh
No run 6 gage wire. I made a mistake it’s 6 gage wire.
You can run smaller wire to the receptacle if you are going to use a 3500 watt or smaller generator. 10 gage is good for 3600 watts. That is what I used on my transfer switch but mine is a 30 amp system.
Lynwood
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Ok 6g wire. I’ll be using 2 3500 Inverter / generators so the bigger wire would be better.
Thank you
Tony
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05-30-2020, 12:21 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Salem
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M.O.C. #2283
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Last2Die
Ok 6g wire. I’ll be using 2 3500 Inverter / generators so the bigger wire would be better.
Thank you
Tony
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Yep bigger is better.
Lynwood
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05-30-2020, 12:29 PM
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Montana Master
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Thoughts on a specific transfer switch..?
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05-30-2020, 12:36 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Salem
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M.O.C. #2283
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Sorry can’t help with that. I installed 2 ATA several years ago. The last two I made but they are manual switches.
Lynwood
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05-31-2020, 07:20 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Menifee
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So I know where the switch is going I’ll order that today or tomorrow. I can get 6/3 wire at Lowe’s and it’s insulated. Now I need to find some sort of male water proof exterior outlet/plug to plug into. Been looking haven’t found anything. Ideas...?
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05-31-2020, 07:31 PM
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Montana Master
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All I can find are twist lock. Is that what I need..? Wire 2 hots and the common where does the ground go..? Thought I would be able to find the same tripe of fitting that’s on the rv the 4 prong
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05-31-2020, 08:04 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Arlington
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M.O.C. #18081
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Last2Die
All I can find are twist lock. Is that what I need..? Wire 2 hots and the common where does the ground go..? Thought I would be able to find the same tripe of fitting that’s on the rv the 4 prong
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Make sure you get 6/4 SO or SOOW cable not NMB (Romex)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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05-31-2020, 08:34 PM
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Montana Master
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I asked a friend who’s an electrician he said 6/3 was ok. 6/3 has 4 wires. So I guess I do need a twist lock to 4 prong adapter ..?
https://www.lowes.com/pd/6-3-UF-Wire...e-Foot/3345390
That right..?
Tony
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05-31-2020, 08:49 PM
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Montana Master
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Location: Arlington
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M.O.C. #18081
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I am an electrician...you need 6/4 cord. 6/4 consists of two hot conductors (black and red), one neutral (white) and a ground (green). You want cord because it is approved for damp locations and has an outer jacket suitable for the installation location. UF can be difficult to work with and is not needed for the type of environment.
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05-31-2020, 09:02 PM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #22986
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Thank you !! I’m assuming this would work:
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Southwire-4...-Foot/50148252
So 2 hots and the common and the ground will be wired in to the male 3 prong plug ?
Tony
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05-31-2020, 09:57 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: West Jordan
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M.O.C. #22840
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Last2Die
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No I’m thinking you need a 4 prong plug. One for Red, one for Black, one for Common, one for Ground.
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2019 3791RD Montana
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05-31-2020, 10:09 PM
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Montana Master
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M.O.C. #22986
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gjennings
No I’m thinking you need a 4 prong plug. One for Red, one for Black, one for Common, one for Ground.
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That’s what I thought. Can’t find any...they all look like the ones in the side of my house... not sure what to get
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05-31-2020, 10:24 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: West Jordan
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M.O.C. #22840
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Last2Die
That’s what I thought. Can’t find any...they all look like the ones in the side of my house... not sure what to get
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I found several type at Lowe’s website. See link below maybe this will help.
https://www.lowes.com/search?searchTerm=50amp+male+plug
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2019 3791RD Montana
2018 GMC 3500 6.6 diesel short bed
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05-31-2020, 10:36 PM
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Site Team
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Location: Carmichael - CA
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M.O.C. #4831
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PNW_Fireguy gave you the link to the correct 50 amp RV receptacle back in Post #30 (above). Trust him, he knows.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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There is more to life than fuel mileage.
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05-31-2020, 11:21 PM
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Montana Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carl n Susan
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Ok thank you. He’s the electrician !! I’m assuming it will wire up like a 4 prong..? Worse case I’m sure it will have instructions.
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05-31-2020, 11:23 PM
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Montana Master
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Yup it will just checked them out. Thank you !
Ordered !!
Next is the transfer switch.
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06-01-2020, 06:02 AM
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Montana Master
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Last2Die, do your inverter/generators have automatic start on them, and if so, how do they get their signal that the power has gone off, and they need to auto start?
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