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12-31-2007, 08:38 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: CORYDON
Posts: 90
M.O.C. #6371
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Toilet
The toilet will not hold water in the bowel.
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12-31-2007, 09:26 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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So what else is new.. Try cleaning the seal, any little bit of Derbies will cause it to leak...try lubricating the seal..you may have to replace the seal and spring. I never know if there will be water in mine or not..
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12-31-2007, 09:26 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location:
Posts: 47
M.O.C. #6723
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I noticed that mine started doing this also. I thought it may be the temperature change. I took WD40 and sprayed around the gasket and flushed it 5 or 6 times and it started working again.
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12-31-2007, 10:18 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Lone Tree
Posts: 5,615
M.O.C. #6109
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haahahahahaha - "Derbie?" Took me a second to figure out what you meant. I thought it was a new term.
I think SNFEXPRESS posted that SeaLand was offering a new seal kit, but petro jelly on the seal was the best fix. I noticed mine leaked down it's bowl of pink cocktail when I checked on it yesterday.
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12-31-2007, 10:48 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 20,028
M.O.C. #20
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Sometimes the valve closes on paper or other debris and a little gets stuck in the groove. The first thing I try is to push and release the pedal about three times. That usually works. Just pull your foot off the pedal and let it slam back closed hard. If this doesn't work, then run a wire or coat hanger around the groove to clean it out. Or a stiff brush if it will get in that groove. But the pedal slap method works well for us. This seems to happen to us fairly frequenly, usually when flushing at night in the dark.
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12-31-2007, 01:23 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kville
Posts: 2,865
M.O.C. #7871
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You need the kit, they'll send you one free, it's an easy fix, just call them...800-321-9886.
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12-31-2007, 01:37 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Pagosa Springs
Posts: 3,711
M.O.C. #3120
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We've had the same problem. We use Steve's solution first of the pedal slap, but if that doesn't work, our fix is to use a round toilet brush and let the pedal up while the brush is in the hole. Rotate brush and voilla, you have a new seal. Every so often, I put a gob of vaseline on the seal too.
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12-31-2007, 04:28 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Texas City
Posts: 5,736
M.O.C. #7673
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This happened to us this last time out. I'm still under warranty and since I'm having the awning replaced they will fix that at the same time. I did everything everyone is suggesting and it still leaked and I had a dry bowl. One of the items in the replacement kit is a new spring that is supposed to put more pressure on the closing ball to keep it sealed.
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01-01-2008, 02:36 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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When ours was new, it leaked, all we had to do was the lubing of the seals with vaseline in addition there is a screw connector on the back of the bowl that when tightened applies pressure to the seal assembly. Ours has not leaked since doing both of the above.
Bingo
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01-01-2008, 03:25 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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They replaced the seal and who knows what else when it was in the service center in April. No significant improvement..A combination of all of the above will maybe work, maybe not.. It is part of living in a Rv. We are having a problem with ENOUGH water going into the bowl..Is there a adjustment for that???
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01-01-2008, 03:30 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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That is an interesting question Rich that I would be interested in knowing also. Current procedure is partially depressing the foot lever to add the desired amount of water after flushing. A slight inconvenience, but it works.
Bingo
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01-01-2008, 04:17 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Canon City
Posts: 1,340
M.O.C. #7919
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For whatever it is worth, our tech told us during the PDI to regularly spray a coating of Pam cooking spray on the trap/ball in the bottom of the bowl. This would help prevent a build up of scale residue from the water sitting there. This in return would prevent leak down.
With other RVs, motorhomes and trailers I have put on the rubber gloves and lubed the trap and seals with petroleum jelly about once a year and I never had any problems with leak down.
JB
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01-01-2008, 04:29 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Ridgeville
Posts: 20,229
M.O.C. #2839
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We are having a problem with ENOUGH water going into the bowl..Is there a adjustment for that???"
The things we can learn by reading the instruction manual.Since all else failed I tried that. First check for low water pressure. There is a filter screen on the input water line, that may be blocked or dirty. And If you raise UP on the flush level water will flow into the bowl to any desired level////(i didn't know that)???It is all in the book.....Who would have thunk..
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01-01-2008, 04:44 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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Now that is different. didn't know water flowed by raising up on the lever, seems like ours says to partially depress the pedal (not enough to engage the flush valve system) to control additional water, I'll try that though out of cutiosity. Of course, it will be a few months before I can check it.
Bingo
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01-01-2008, 04:55 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Pagosa Springs
Posts: 3,711
M.O.C. #3120
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Rich & Bingo,
Are you pulling my leg?....You didn't know that pulling up on the pedal adds water to the bowl?
Amazing!
Guess some people do more thinking when they are in that little room.
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01-01-2008, 05:01 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Layton
Posts: 1,048
M.O.C. #666
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Dont:
I think you meant to say "toilet does not hold water in the Bowl"????? Of course that DEPENDS on my interpretation of what the subject must be about.......... VBG...
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01-01-2008, 05:11 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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Robbie,
I never even had a clue that the toilet pedal worked that way. However, unlike Rich, I have not succumbed to the temptation of actually reading the manual!!!!!!!
Bingo
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01-01-2008, 05:33 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Canon City
Posts: 1,340
M.O.C. #7919
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You guys crack me up. This one pedal toilet is new to me also. The Tech did show me to use my toe to lift the pedal to fill. I am afraid if he had not shown me I would have been in trouble. I'm with Rich "who would have thunk it."
JB
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01-01-2008, 06:19 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Oceanside
Posts: 20,028
M.O.C. #20
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I knew about lifting up for more water on our SeaLand toilet but I don't recall if that works on the Thetfords or not.
I did not know about the filter screen, however.
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01-01-2008, 06:58 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Pagosa Springs
Posts: 3,711
M.O.C. #3120
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Bingo,
You just keep going in there and do your thinking.
Some people use it as a reading room.
Some people just go in there to play with the fixtures, pedals and stare into the mirror; to each his own.
Just the other day while in there, I designed a new louvered tail gate.
Don, please let us know what works!
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