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Old 08-03-2024, 07:43 AM   #1
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Water softener opinion

Good morning,

I’m looking to add a water softener for my Montana. The seasonal site that I’m on has extremely hard water. I’m looking at an On The Go system. I like the fact that it’s built in the USA and will gladly pay more for it, if it’s of a good build quality and performs well. ANY opinion is welcome.
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Old 08-03-2024, 09:17 AM   #2
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I don't have a water softener in my RV, but have had one in my home for several years. It's probably the one appliance that will actually pay for itself. It saves a lot of detergent, soap, shampoo, etc, not to mention the real savings in how long appliances like dishwashers, water heaters, and washing machines will last. It's also good for faucets, strainers, and shower heads. There are benefits for hair and skin also.

To do it right, it's a little more than plug and play. You need to have an idea on the hardness of the water you're using. Regenerating the the media beads in the softener is a required maintenance item. The frequency of the regen is a product of water hardness and gallons used. The newer home units allow you to enter the hardness and it will calculate gallons it can soften between regen cycles and do it automatically when needed. The RV units don't offer this feature and you will have to do some calculations or testing to schedule your regen cycles which have to be manually done on these.

For a temporary location, it's not worth having a lab test the water. There is a possibility the water utility can supply that information, or there are some test kits on the market that seem to do a good job. Here's one:

https://www.amazon.com/Hardness-Aqua...zcF9hdGY&psc=1

The goal is to stay <1.5 grains per gallon, this kit will do several tests. Don't waste your money on the paper strips, they are useless. 1.5 grains per gallon is the low end of hardness, I had my water lab tested before I bought the softener and it was >15 gpg; 10 times the low end!

I believe the RV units have to remove the tank, pour in some table salt and backflush with a water hose to do the regen cycle. If you don't monitor the hardness and do the maintenance, over time it will just become a tank occupying space in your storage area.

I would highly recommend calling US Water Systems in Indianapolis. These folks actually have extremely knowledgeable and helpful humans that answer the phone and are willing to spend as much time needed to answer your questions. They sell a small softener for RVs and boats that has a filter housing attached. Theirs has a backflush kit that comes with it that I believe would be extremely helpful. The filter housing is 2.5" X 10" and it's a very common size for elements. I would highly recommend a 5 micron sediment element before the softener. Those filters many of us use that go on your supply hose are 20 micron and are a little coarse. I believe their products are US made too.

A couple of considerations: Be aware of the capacity of the softener in flow rate. Many of the RV models are 2 GPM which might be a little restrictive if you have a shower head that will actually pass 2.5 GPM. There are 3.0 GPM models available. The other thing is taste; some people claim they can taste salt in the water, I personally can't but might just be my taste buds. I have installed RO units in my home and RV and use that water for drinking & cooking. The only time that only soft water goes in my mouth is brushing my teeth.

An RO (reverse osmosis) unit is a good companion to a softener, but should be another thread.
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Old 08-03-2024, 12:01 PM   #3
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That is a lot of very good information, advice.
We are fortunate. We have great water. Our shower heads never stop up and water heaters never go bad. We have a well. 5 miles from us the water is so bad from sulfur and iron you can’t treat it.
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Old 08-03-2024, 02:00 PM   #4
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We have the model that takes 1 lb of salt. Purchased after staying in a couple of AZ rv parks with very hard water. Easy to use and works. However, the plastic neck above the spun tank has started to leak at a small hairline crack after about 2 1/2 years using it (comes with 1 yr warranty). It still works but will have to replace it eventually.

Mainly used for washing dishes and bathing. We use bottled water for drinking and cooking.

Note that there is some maint required. Periodic back flush and chemical sanitization. Link to the online instructions:

https://www.portablewatersoftener.co...p-instructions
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Old 08-03-2024, 04:11 PM   #5
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We've had a softener for about six years or so now and have a whole house water filter connected to it prior to going into the softener. Works great and we recharge the softener about every month or so especially if we are down in AZ and other States that have extremely hard water. We just use about a pint and a half of the regular water softener salt when recharging the softener. If you have never had a softener the salt actually cleans the beads that are in the softener and does not stay within the softener itself. When recharging, I add a special tube into the filter bowl that has several holes in it towards the bottom, add the salt to the bowl and reconnect the bowl. I then turn on the incoming water, open my galley gray tank and go inside and turn on the kitchen sink faucet to about the size of a pencil stream and let the water run until the salt is nearly or all the way gone in the filter bowl and I then make sure the water is no longer salty coming out of the faucet, turn the faucet off, go back outside and turn the incoming water off, remove the filter bowl, put in a new filter element, reconnect the bowl and turn the water back on from the campground faucet. It takes about an hour or so for this process but well worth the time. Just sit back and let the campground water do the work.
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Old 08-12-2024, 07:05 PM   #6
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We purchased this system in March and love it. I ordered the double standard with brass fittings direct from the manufacture. Great customer service and they will answer all your questions. If I had it to do again, I think I would order the standard for our needs. Lighter and smaller. They gave me a big military discount also.
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Old 08-13-2024, 07:11 AM   #7
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We have used On-the-Go (double-standard) for several years, in Florida, it's great, and a worthwhile investment. You definitely want the brass fittings though.
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Old 08-13-2024, 08:30 AM   #8
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We use this one and has been great. Had the on-the go and had to recharge it once a month. the one in the link lasts about 3 months.
https://www.rvwaterfilterstore.com/c...-hose-fittings
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Old 08-13-2024, 08:48 AM   #9
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I’ve used a On the Go softener for 9 years and my wife says “absolutely” we will always have one. We travel 7 months of the year and I regenerate it once a year as they say to do it. I have replaced the beads inside once, easy peasy. This is another good investment.
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Old 08-13-2024, 11:15 AM   #10
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We use this one and has been great. Had the on-the go and had to recharge it once a month. the one in the link lasts about 3 months.
https://www.rvwaterfilterstore.com/c...-hose-fittings
I looked at the specs on this model and it's pretty impressive. The 16K grain capacity is huge for such a small tank. I never did see the rated flow rate, it just said high flow, and does have 3/4" pipe fittings so it should be very adequate. The 2000 gallon recharge interval is just an estimate, it all depends on water hardness. In an application where there is no laundry, vehicle washing, or plant watering, I would think it would take a long time for 2 people just showering and dish washing to use that much water.

A couple of ideas for the OP: Just like the hardness, you don't know what the chlorine content of the water at a campground is. The government standard is 4 PPM, but who knows what you're getting. Other than tasting bad, a high chlorine content will shorten the life span of water softener media. An activated carbon filter will remove most of the chlorine. I would recommend an activated carbon filter ahead of the softener. Those elements are widely available in all common size filter housings. If you are contemplating how to secure the tank in your rig, look into one of these:

https://www.supplyhouse.com/Holdrite...5-Gal-Capacity

They're actually made for expansion tanks required with tank type water heaters, but have many applications. They will work on any tank up to 13" diameter. The wall bracket can be bolted or screwed to any hard surface.

When you do regenerate the media, the were is also important. If you're in a campground and don't have a space with crushed stone, make sure and dump it down the sewer. The brine water will kill the grass.
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Old 08-13-2024, 11:59 AM   #11
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Rv water filter store is having a 24% off sale site wide. Use code "Augast24". Just got the email/
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