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Old 04-28-2019, 07:41 PM   #61
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You seem to be towing nose high, I would look at adjusting your hitch to lower your nose but this is just my opinion
That was as low as it could go, have since changed hitch and pinbox.
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Old 04-28-2019, 07:46 PM   #62
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here a different view. I bought a ram 3500 dually, but 410 rear long bed crew cab tradesman with power equip. The kicker 6.4 liter hemi. ordered new including factory hitch and everything I needed but nothing not needed under 50000. 2018. I can tow 16000 and have no diesel problems or maintenance costs. Larry and Linda kicking back
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Old 04-28-2019, 08:45 PM   #63
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I'd keep that at more like 12,000 and stay away from mountains unless 45 mph is comfy for you.
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Old 04-29-2019, 07:11 AM   #64
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If the loaded pin weight plus the weight of people, fuel, and “stuff” you carry in the truck exceeds the payload rating of the SRW then you NEED a DRW. If not, then it is a matter of do you want a DRW or SRW.

And don’t let anyone lie to you. A DRW is more of a pain as a daily driver.
I use a DRW with a crew cab, 8 ft bed as a daily driver, I personally have no problems with it. I get any place I need to w/o difficulty!
One needs to be an attentive driver all the time! With or without a trailer!
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Old 04-29-2019, 07:17 AM   #65
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Depends on how you plan on using it. Full time? Loaded out to its GVWR? Then consider a dually especially if the math tells you need it. If you are only going to carry a 1000 lbs of gear for weekend trips or non full time RVing... you might be able to get away with the SRW. Converting a SRW to DRW? That's new one to me... certainly doable but it seems rather expensive when you can get it from the factory already configured and warranteed.

Having said all that, you'll get argument from both sides... let the SRW DRW war begin again...

We have a 3500 DRW and are looking at 3810/3811MS (40+ feet) I would not consider anything less than a dually.
Right with you on nothing less than a DRW!
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Old 04-29-2019, 08:48 AM   #66
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Dually, stress free and tow with confidence.
I have also towed with both and wouldn’t go back to SRW.
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Old 04-29-2019, 08:55 AM   #67
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[B][/BI speak from lots of experience from both sides. I had a late model SRW diesel pulling a 35 foot Montana HC and it did just fine, was at the max and just a little over on payload with all the junk I carry even had a 37 gal. Aux. fuel tank that put it over payload when full but it pull steady enough for me after I put air bags on it. Ease of use after towing was a big plus and the wife would drive and give me a break once in a while. ( still can`t get her to pull the camper).
Then after the Hershey Rv show (RV shows can be dangerous to your wallet) I got a wild hair and went out and bought a new Rear Den Montana. It is much heavier and longer and after a couple of trips I did notice it was a little squirmy in high winds even with new tires. So after about 32 seconds of thought I went out and bought a 350 Dually and I must say it pulls much steadier and trucks passing and high winds do not push you around like before. More bed space, a much higher payload I`m at 5595 lbs at my trim level. The new trucks are much quieter inside. The motor Dieseling sound is almost gone. The wife says she feels much safer riding in the truck when towing.
The down side is a much harsher ride when unloaded and you really need to park in the satellite parking areas if you don`t want the plus size white head in her roller skate car clipping your rear fenders pulling into parking spaces. No drive thru`s or car washes. Maybe others will but my wife won`t drive it, young bucks in their jacked up diesel trucks with big tires want to race you, the others gun their engines at you at traffic lights, young females will smile at you more. The cost will be Mid 70`s and your insurance will go up. Some companies will classify it as commercial and then it really goes up. Some HOA`s will NOT let you park a Dually on the street. I had to push the back of my garage out 2` so it would fit in.
But all in all I would NOT pull the new 41` beasts with a SRW after trying it for a time.
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Very well said and I went through the same exact thing. Including the truck doesn't fit in the garage or the majority of car washes, although I have found one close to home that. That being said let me go get my popcorn for the show.
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Old 04-29-2019, 11:38 AM   #68
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I've been pulling my 40' 2017 Montana with my 2017 Ram 3500 SRW for almost 2 years now without any problems at all; the truck doesn't even know it's there and pulls like a dream. Like others are saying, it's all about GVWR.

That being said... When we bought the truck and trailer in 2017 my wife told me that she would never drive a dually, so I got the SRW so she would basically be able to drive it. In hind-sight, she rarely drives the damn thing anyway so I honestly wish I would have gotten the DRW. However, now that the new Rams are out with the larger screens and better options, this is going to be my excuse for getting a new Ram. It will for sure be a dually. But that's not because of the Montana trailer weight. It's because we are upgrading to a DRV that weighs in around 25K lbs. And that's way too much for any SRW in my humble opinion. Even the manufacturer agrees with me based on the GVWR on the truck.
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Old 04-30-2019, 06:28 PM   #69
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SRW is plenty

We have a SRW F350 superduty. I pull my 42 foot Montana all over the place with no issue AT ALL, and can still fit my truck easily in parking spaces and my carport. The truck is also my daily driver, so having something a little more maneuverable and easier on the pocket at tire change time was a big deal for me. We are inside the envelope with our 3791 and tow it easily with no issues whatsoever.
If “hip” space and money for tires isn’t an issue, then I think either one will do fine as long as you are in the envelope.
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Old 04-30-2019, 06:56 PM   #70
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We were looking at the 3791 and I have a 2016 F350 SRW Crew SB 6.7 my payload is 3307 and max tow is 15,700 and with that trailer I would be borderline as the pin is 2700 and dry weight is near 14K just curious if you have a newer 2017-2019? Bc anything older you have to be cutting it close
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Old 04-30-2019, 07:25 PM   #71
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3791 has a Gross of 16600 which makes a possible wet pin in excess of 3K leaving you no room for driver, passengers, or even a 5th wheel hitch.
Only you can make the final decision if you're OK with the numbers.
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Old 04-30-2019, 08:18 PM   #72
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We were looking at the 3791 and I have a 2016 F350 SRW Crew SB 6.7 my payload is 3307 and max tow is 15,700 and with that trailer I would be borderline as the pin is 2700 and dry weight is near 14K just curious if you have a newer 2017-2019? Bc anything older you have to be cutting it close

Your payload rating seems low. Our '14 CC SB 6.7 is rated nearly 300lbs more than your '16.


Are you getting your payload rating off the yellow door sticker?
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Old 04-30-2019, 10:33 PM   #73
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Your payload rating seems low. Our '14 CC SB 6.7 is rated nearly 300lbs more than your '16.


Are you getting your payload rating off the yellow door sticker?
Yep, maybe because mine is a King Ranch and it is loaded with more options, not sure but I have the factory Puck system and only rated for 3307
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Old 04-30-2019, 11:05 PM   #74
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3791 has a Gross of 16600 which makes a possible wet pin in excess of 3K leaving you no room for driver, passengers, or even a 5th wheel hitch.
Only you can make the final decision if you're OK with the numbers.

I had a 2015 3790RD with an Onan 5.5 Generator and two 6 volt batteries. When loaded, the pin weight was 3,850lbs. I was pulling with a DRW.
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Your payload rating seems low. Our '14 CC SB 6.7 is rated nearly 300lbs more than your '16.


Are you getting your payload rating off the yellow door sticker?
Ford used to provide on-line access to the full specifications for their trucks including all dimensional information as well as payload information for every configuration. The payload rating varied by over 1000 lbs from lowest to highest for an F350 SRW depending on cab, bed, engine, 4x4 vs 4x2, and even tire/wheel size. And I would guess all the available bell and whistle options would affect it also.

But that access is apparently no longer available.
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If the load in the truck put you over the truck's weight rating, then YES,, you need a dually..
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Ford used to provide on-line access to the full specifications for their trucks including all dimensional information as well as payload information for every configuration. The payload rating varied by over 1000 lbs from lowest to highest for an F350 SRW depending on cab, bed, engine, 4x4 vs 4x2, and even tire/wheel size. And I would guess all the available bell and whistle options would affect it also.

But that access is apparently no longer available.
they are, but they moved them.

https://fordbbas.com/publications

expand the "Body Builders Layout Book" section.
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This thread has gotten me thinking a bit. I'm hauling a 3731FL with a 2017 F350 SWR with no apparent issues. Rides smooth and goes up and down hills with ease, lane changes and rough Interstates are not a hassle. I've done over 10K miles with this set up. Having said that, and going back to the door post sticker had me doing some math. I carry very little in the front hatch and basement and load most items under the bed in the rear along with keeping at least half full fresh water tank to keep pin weight to a minimum. I just checked my trade in value and no way I can afford to move to a DRW. I believe I may be close on payload so my next step will be to hit the scales so I have real numbers and then maybe go for air bags and an air ride pin box to soften some of the bouncing on these nasty Interstates. If the scales say I'm overweight that may require more drastic action.
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Been where you are and with the new 3761fl may be again. Will know more next week on the 1st long trip. Plan on new truck next year but if it feels heavy I'll get a new one now. The 2016 f350 srw has done the job but need to see how the new trailer feels. Had a dually in the past and do not want another ever but if needed will do it.
I wish Ford still made the dually short bed.
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This thread has gotten me thinking a bit. I'm hauling a 3731FL with a 2017 F350 SWR with no apparent issues. Rides smooth and goes up and down hills with ease, lane changes and rough Interstates are not a hassle. I've done over 10K miles with this set up. Having said that, and going back to the door post sticker had me doing some math. I carry very little in the front hatch and basement and load most items under the bed in the rear along with keeping at least half full fresh water tank to keep pin weight to a minimum. I just checked my trade in value and no way I can afford to move to a DRW. I believe I may be close on payload so my next step will be to hit the scales so I have real numbers and then maybe go for air bags and an air ride pin box to soften some of the bouncing on these nasty Interstates. If the scales say I'm overweight that may require more drastic action.
Smart thinking on your part. I've always said if you don't weigh you don't know yet many on this forum argue one way or another about the srw vs drw yet don't know there weight's. Come on folks, get on the scales.We all know that all the trucks pull with plenty of power and we all like the way the srw's park compared to drw's but that's not the problem. If everyone would let the weight dictate what we buy there wouldn't be page after page on this subject. I'm about to run out of
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