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05-26-2020, 07:07 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Sterling Heights Mi
Posts: 61
M.O.C. #23262
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New Tow Vehicle
Upgraded from a 2012 GMC Serra SLE 2500HD to a 2020 Serra SLT 3500HD with the new Allison 10 speed trans. It is a day and Night difference on how much better the ride is with the camper or with out the camper.
https://www.montanaowners.com/forums...1&d=1590498352
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Keith & Nancy
2019 Montana 3810MS Legacy Edition
Full Body Paint (Sterling) Slide Toppers
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05-26-2020, 07:25 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Congrats on the new truck. Sharp!
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Mike and Lorraine
2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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05-26-2020, 07:45 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
Posts: 1,109
M.O.C. #22986
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very nice. thoughts on the amount of squat? your truck sat like mine did just a little nose high not much but its there
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2018 3920fb 2020 GMC Denali 3500 4x4 Duramax, 10 speed Allison. LB SRW, Firestone air bags with Airlift wireless onboard compressor. Anderson Ultimate Hitch. MX4 folding cover. 50gal titan in bed transfer tank. Onan 6500 lp genset installed by me ! Had: 2 HF 3500 Inverters with Parallel Kit
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05-26-2020, 07:53 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Sterling Heights Mi
Posts: 61
M.O.C. #23262
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It drops 3.5 inches. I had air bags on my 2012 but my ride is so good on the new truck i don't want to put them on my new truck.
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Keith & Nancy
2019 Montana 3810MS Legacy Edition
Full Body Paint (Sterling) Slide Toppers
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05-26-2020, 08:34 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Menifee
Posts: 1,109
M.O.C. #22986
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AV Tech
It drops 3.5 inches. I had air bags on my 2012 but my ride is so good on the new truck i don't want to put them on my new truck.
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that sounds about right. The ride is like a Cadillac ! I can tell you the airbags will not effect ride quality. Even slightly nose high it was bugging me.
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2018 3920fb 2020 GMC Denali 3500 4x4 Duramax, 10 speed Allison. LB SRW, Firestone air bags with Airlift wireless onboard compressor. Anderson Ultimate Hitch. MX4 folding cover. 50gal titan in bed transfer tank. Onan 6500 lp genset installed by me ! Had: 2 HF 3500 Inverters with Parallel Kit
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06-01-2020, 01:35 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Hesston
Posts: 735
M.O.C. #25060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AV Tech
It drops 3.5 inches. I had air bags on my 2012 but my ride is so good on the new truck i don't want to put them on my new truck.
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That's exactly what my truck drops with our 3741FK hooked up.
I went to the scales, and loaded vs. unloaded on the front axle are 4800 and 5060 respectively, so a drop of 260 lbs on the front axle, or a difference of 5% from the original 5060.
With only loosing 260 lbs on the front (and still having 4800 lbs on the ground), I have never felt like the front end is light at all.
Enjoy that beast!!!
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2020 Montana 3741FK
2020 Chevy SRW 3500HD Duramax/Allison High Country
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05-26-2020, 08:38 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,551
M.O.C. #2283
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Great truck ENJOY!
Lynwood
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05-26-2020, 09:59 AM
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Established Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Mesa
Posts: 44
M.O.C. #25528
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Congratulations on the new truck. I traded up to a 2020 GMC 3500 dually from a 2500 GMC and went out the first time over this weekend. What a difference. I have the air bags I took off the 2500 so will probably have them installed on the new truck.
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05-26-2020, 11:24 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Austin
Posts: 2,423
M.O.C. #21044
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Congrats on the new truck - it looks great! I really like the rear bed side step that comes on the 2020 models! Great idea...why did it take so long to come up with that one?
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MikenDebbie Aggie ‘77 in the sticks near Austin TX
2019 Chevy 3500 High Country DRW
2018 Montana 3921FB
Aussie Gus + Texas Heeler Jimmy
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05-26-2020, 12:58 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Tacoma
Posts: 1,567
M.O.C. #20475
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Vary nice. GM needs to put air bags on from the factory. Like my Ram 3500 no squat at all and adj them from inside.
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Bob & Carol Washington St
2017 HC HM352RL 2018 Dodge 3500 laramie CC LB 4x4
Curt Q25 with puck system, Factory air bags
Happy Trails
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06-01-2020, 12:28 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: hennepin
Posts: 67
M.O.C. #23725
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Gm's dually's don't need air bags because they're built with the rear slightly higher so when loaded they sit level. I have a 2019 Chevy LTZ dually and it has LOTS of pin weight, but rides & handles great. No need for air bags whatsoever
Congrats on the new truck!
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06-01-2020, 01:25 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Hesston
Posts: 735
M.O.C. #25060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smkn454 Mike
Gm's dually's don't need air bags because they're built with the rear slightly higher so when loaded they sit level. I have a 2019 Chevy LTZ dually and it has LOTS of pin weight, but rides & handles great. No need for air bags whatsoever
Congrats on the new truck!
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The same is true on the both the 2500 and 3500 SRW's. They sit a little bit higher in the back than the front unloaded.
However, it doesn't seem like it, because it feels like almost everyone cranks up the front torsion bars to get them level, so they look like they are not higher in the back...
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2020 Montana 3741FK
2020 Chevy SRW 3500HD Duramax/Allison High Country
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06-01-2020, 07:20 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
Posts: 7,551
M.O.C. #2283
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smkn454 Mike
Gm's dually's don't need air bags because they're built with the rear slightly higher so when loaded they sit level. I have a 2019 Chevy LTZ dually and it has LOTS of pin weight, but rides & handles great. No need for air bags whatsoever
Congrats on the new truck!
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All trucks set higher in the back for this reason.
Lynwood
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07-20-2020, 09:22 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: hennepin
Posts: 67
M.O.C. #23725
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mlh
All trucks set higher in the back for this reason.
Lynwood
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Fords & Rams sit closer to level when unloaded than their GM counterparts. This why you see many Rams & Fords sagging when they are loaded vs the GM'S sitting level or in our case just barely touching the overloads & level. That being said Rams now have factory airbags and the new GM's do sag 3" or so but still end up level when loaded.
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07-20-2020, 09:45 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: South East NC
Posts: 1,768
M.O.C. #19865
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smkn454 Mike
Fords & Rams sit closer to level when unloaded than their GM counterparts. This why you see many Rams & Fords sagging when they are loaded vs the GM'S sitting level or in our case just barely touching the overloads & level. That being said Rams now have factory airbags and the new GM's do sag 3" or so but still end up level when loaded.
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SAG? I've run 250 and 350s now a dually. 2600 - 3400 PW and the Fords went to level, not sagging. Never needed bags after I sold the last Dodge, Ram
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John & Patty
2022 3855 BR
2019 Lariat F350 4X4 Dually
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05-26-2020, 02:57 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2020
Location: UPLAND
Posts: 1,256
M.O.C. #26190
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Don't you love it. They are a towing beast. You will love the cameras for lane changes, and everything else. Congratulations, oh by the way I put airbags on mine. These trailers drop some serious weight over the axle.
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05-26-2020, 05:28 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Waynesville
Posts: 533
M.O.C. #25947
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Good looking truck and set up. Con grads. You are going to love that 10 speed. What until you check your fuel MPG. Will be you it goes up 3 to 4 MPG from your other truck. That's if you drive 65 to 70 mph
Charlie
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06-01-2020, 01:28 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Hesston
Posts: 735
M.O.C. #25060
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie 3931fb
Good looking truck and set up. Con grads. You are going to love that 10 speed. What until you check your fuel MPG. Will be you it goes up 3 to 4 MPG from your other truck. That's if you drive 65 to 70 mph
Charlie
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I can only say that was not my experience. We went from a 2002 2500 D/A, and got about 8.5ish pulling 70MPH.
With our 2020 3500 D/A we are getting about 9-9.5ish pulling 70MPH. Not a huge gain for us. BUT, you know what, I don't care. The smile that I get when I hit the go pedal makes up for any fuel economies that I might or might not get.
The 10 speed is absolutely awesome in all regards, pulling or not...
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2020 Montana 3741FK
2020 Chevy SRW 3500HD Duramax/Allison High Country
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07-20-2020, 10:11 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Waynesville
Posts: 533
M.O.C. #25947
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CADman_KS
I can only say that was not my experience. We went from a 2002 2500 D/A, and got about 8.5ish pulling 70MPH.
With our 2020 3500 D/A we are getting about 9-9.5ish pulling 70MPH. Not a huge gain for us. BUT, you know what, I don't care. The smile that I get when I hit the go pedal makes up for any fuel economies that I might or might not get.
The 10 speed is absolutely awesome in all regards, pulling or not...
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Try to kick your speed down a little. My sweet spot is 63 mph. With my 9 speed 090 fuller roadranger (Manual) I get right at 11.5 mpg. I have gotten up to 13.5 mpg but that was 55 to 60 mph.
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Charlie & Sofia
Sawyer (The Lawyer) Buster Brown Fur - babies
46 years married (Dam I been in prison that long)
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07-21-2020, 08:08 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Gardnerville
Posts: 1,252
M.O.C. #17163
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Our ram sags, then goes up all by itself!... love it.
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