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Old 12-11-2024, 08:08 PM   #21
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Hello, we live in Texas and use Safeco for house, trucks, rv and utv. Great service and price. Maybe move from the left-coast to Texas?
When we moved from Florida last year (lived there 22 years) to Southern California our full timers policy through Progressive went from $89 to $58 a month.

The explanation I was given was that RV losses are much higher in Florida due to flooding and wind storms of all types. Between severe thunderstorms, tornadoes and hurricanes I suspect Texas wouldn’t be that much different.
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Old 12-11-2024, 08:16 PM   #22
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We're based in Florida and are with National General. Our premium is just under $1K.
Progressive also provided a quotation at $1255.
Previously we lived on a 50 ft boat, also in Florida. Our insurance went from $3600 to $8500 in one jump in one year.
Insurance companies have had some huge payouts over the past few years so it doesn't surprise me. Also, their executives command VERY high salaries which have risen significantly over the past several years which also adds to the company expenses.
The Tampa news just did a segment on this very thing:

https://youtu.be/sqBbESgkQGc?si=PG3Ge4eWVg-Ip5ih
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Old 12-12-2024, 09:42 AM   #23
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Good morning -

I use Foremost for my 5th Wheel. The cost is $422 a year, and no age limit on the RV.

I live in California
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Old 12-12-2024, 05:35 PM   #24
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While on the subject of RV insurance. We're currently under a Santa Ana wind advisory. Traveling with a tall RV is definitely not recommended:

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Old 12-13-2024, 09:47 AM   #25
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I am in the insurance business in Seattle. The industry has had big increases. It been a crazy couple of year, alot had to do with losses and inflation. We call it a hard market Companies are leaving such as liberty you mention is not writing RV in your state. We represent Safeco and they have a great RV product. You said your rates went up 1500ish. It's not just Safeco. I suggest to my client is to stay with your current carrier, and yes even though you are going to safeco it is own by Liberty mutual and they take that in account. Now if you find a better price with a new carrier, you might be saving in the short term but they will have a rate increase and it will eat away your savings as well as it waters down your insurance history. The industry is really having issues and I hear California it really bad and Insurances companies are not writing much because of the fires and the losses. I hope this gave you a insight. Just hang in there.
You are absolutely correct, it has been a crazy couple of years. In 2022 there were 462 different insurance company partnerships with major league sports to the tune of $1.2 billion. State Farm alone is paying an estimated $200-400 mil for naming rights to Arizona Stadium in addition to paying A list pro athletes and actors to do their never ending commercials that air during any highly rated TV show or sporting event. They paid a college athlete an NIL sum that's probably close to what their CEO earns per year. I'm sure that $1.2 billion has only increased in the past 2 years.

Lincoln Financial is paying >$300 million for naming rights to the Eagle's stadium even though their own mismanagement got them kicked off the S&P 500. MetLife is paying for naming rights to the Giants & Jets stadium, but hopefully have asked for a refund.

I'm not even mentioning sponsorships with NBA, MLB, NASCAR, Indy Car, and Tennis. I don't have a business background so I don't fully understand advertising. I do know that we have a choice which if any beer we drink, what brand of vehicle we drive, what perfume we buy our wife or girlfriend. Insurance, at least vehicle and property insurance is not a choice. Every state requires insurance on anything we put on the road. If we borrow money on a vehicle or RV, the lender requires full coverage, same with a home.

My point is this: if they eliminated or greatly reduced their ad budget, could they lower their rates, pay better commissions to their agents, or even god forbid, better service their claims?
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Old 12-13-2024, 10:09 AM   #26
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The salaries of their CEO's have gone up significantly since 2020... way more than the salary or the average worker. Some are basing the CEO, CFO, and director salaries on total sales volume not on the number of people the directly manage nor the profit the company makes. When the CEO of Starbucks makes $1.6 million and received a signing bonus of $10 million, but the average Engineering Manager makes $146,000, something is wrong with corporate America. CEO compensation in the USA is more than double that of CEO's in other countries.
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The salaries of their CEO's have gone up significantly since 2020... way more than the salary or the average worker. Some are basing the CEO, CFO, and director salaries on total sales volume not on the number of people the directly manage nor the profit the company makes. When the CEO of Starbucks makes $1.6 million and received a signing bonus of $10 million, but the average Engineering Manager makes $146,000, something is wrong with corporate America. CEO compensation in the USA is more than double that of CEO's in other countries.
Obviously, CEO is a high risk job now! I'm sure there will be hazard pay in their future as well as a security detail that will also be reflected in the price of their product.
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Old 12-13-2024, 11:47 AM   #28
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Drug companies will spend upwards of $1 million on security for their executives. In 2023 Moderna spent $1 million for security just for their CEO and Pfizer spent $800K to protect their CEO. It's a crazy world. Health care and things like salary continuance are also way better for insurance company executives than the rank and file employees. I know of one insurance company whose CEO got sick, and couldn't work for two years. Ultimately that person passed away after two years but was was paid a full salary during the entire two years.
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