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06-13-2014, 06:44 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Green Valley
Posts: 174
M.O.C. #13151
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Spare Tire Mount Loose
Just wanted all of you to know that the spare tire mount underneath is something you should check before going on the road. I had mine unloosen during a cross-country trip. Happen to walk up to my truck and trailer from a distance and noticed the spare close to the ground and tilted back. I went underneath and saw that it was about ready to come off with a couple more unspun revolutions. I turned it counter-clockwise until the top of the tire was tightened on the mount. And for good measure, tighten it again until it was wedged.
After another couple days, again it had loosened. So then I bought a ratchet strap, fed it through the wheel spoke and over the top of the mount, and tightened it to keep it from spinning off. I can't imagine the damage it would do if it came off and bounced off the pavement underneath.
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Tony & Sharon Strungis / Green Valley, AZ
2011 Chevy Silverado LTZ HD3500 dually
2019 Montana FB3921
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06-13-2014, 06:47 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Winfield
Posts: 7,327
M.O.C. #6846
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A long documented problem that one would think would have had a design fix by now. Your solution is the one commonly employed, strapping it up! A good reminder for those who have not heard of the problem before!
Bingo
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Bingo and Cathy - Our adventures begin in the hills of WV. We are blessed by our 2014 3850FL Big Sky (previous 2011 3750FL and 2007 3400RL) that we pull with a 2007 Chevy Silverado Classic DRW CC dually.
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06-13-2014, 06:51 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Pensacola (mail forward service)
Posts: 3,198
M.O.C. #13740
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And others have stopped carrying the spare tire under there like me. John
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2012 F350 6.7 L dually, 2013 3800RE with 6 pt leveling, Sumitomo 17.5" load range h tires, Samsung 18 cu ft residential fridge, 8k Morryde I.S. with disc brakes. Full timing since 2012.
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06-13-2014, 07:06 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Chilliwack
Posts: 1,520
M.O.C. #12935
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The common fix is to use a ratchet tie down, however some of us like John have removed the tire from under the trailer and mounted it elsewhere. Mine is in my truck bed behind the hitch. Who wants to crawl under the trailer to drag a heavy tire out when needed.
I am fortunate and have a long bed truck so what I did may not be feasible in a SB.
Stupid way to mount a tire, especially when the mount is so cheap, just another thing that could be greatly improved for a couple of extra bucks, but that would effect the bottom line wouldn't it. If you can't move it use the tie down method.
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06-13-2014, 08:12 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Bridgewater
Posts: 1,196
M.O.C. #13166
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This is the first I've heard of this problem. When I was doing my tire swap in March, I used the spare temporarily and while putting it back, was wondering how reliable the mount is. I'll be watching it for sure. Both ideas (strap and removal) are good options.
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06-13-2014, 08:20 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Lake Gaston
Posts: 8,773
M.O.C. #12156
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Guess we are just lucky, never been an issue in all the years We have had Montana units. Another thing to be aware of!
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2002 3655 FL, 2005 3650RK
2010 3665RE, 2015 3910FB
F350 crew cab dually 6.7
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06-13-2014, 08:46 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Northport
Posts: 624
M.O.C. #12724
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I don't know the manufacture of Montana lifts but my previous SOB unit was manufactured in Dayton, Oh. Can't remember the name of company. SOB was a Sunnybrook and the spare tire lift had to be really tight. The instructions was to lift until resistance then with a lot of muscle continue until you heard it click. Very much like click torque wrench.
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2013 358 RLT Mountaineer
2008 Silverado Duramax
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06-13-2014, 12:49 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hixson
Posts: 3,436
M.O.C. #11397
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Two Montanas over a 7 year period and never this problem. Probably past due for this one. Will get ratchet strap for it tomorrow.
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06-13-2014, 04:31 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Murrieta
Posts: 5,816
M.O.C. #9257
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I've had my Monty for eight years and it's something I've been checking for the past three years or so, since I've heard others have had problems. So far, things are solid. Must be another one of those things that manufacturers cheapened up on things up on newer rigs to save a few more profits.
Last time I checked was April, since I just put all new Maxxis all around including the spare. Haven't done any trips since, but I'll be watching things.
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06-13-2014, 05:43 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Campbell River
Posts: 194
M.O.C. #12359
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I think that it depends on the type of road that you are driving on. Took my Montana across Canada then down to Texas and then back to BC no problem. Then going from Palm Springs to Yuma last winter and went over a lot of earthquake heaves where the trailer was literally going up and down and arrived to find my spare hanging just above the pavement. Since then I have more firmly attached it.
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06-14-2014, 02:47 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Northport
Posts: 624
M.O.C. #12724
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another thing to be aware of is how tight the cable gets wound up. If you unwind a lot of cable don't wind any back up with out having some pull on the cable. Any of the first few turns being wound up loose will eventually slip and let tire drop.
The mechanism is a gear being driven by a worm gear. Worm gears will turn a gear but a gear has a had time turning a worm gear.
I've had to tighten ours a couple of times but stays tight now. My guess is loose wraps.
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Paul Northport,AL W4XH
2013 358 RLT Mountaineer
2008 Silverado Duramax
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06-14-2014, 05:07 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: McKinney
Posts: 7,363
M.O.C. #6433
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I put a little extra "snug" on mine when I first read about this. But in 7 yrs has never loosened.
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Riley, our Golden
2007 3075RL (recently sold, currently without)
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06-17-2014, 02:57 AM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Green Valley
Posts: 174
M.O.C. #13151
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I am always surprised on just how different our experiences are with our Montanas. I, on one hand seem to be plagued with cabinet doors/drawers popping open, a spare tire loosening, dishes breaking yet others seem to have peaceful journeys with no ill-effects. Just to let you know, I travel at a speed of no more than 65 mph and don't aim for potholes. However, I have driven on my share of bad roads where my cavity fillings just about fall out. I travel back and forth across country every summer with a 1,500 mile winter trip every year. So I do use it extensively. Happy Traveling!
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Tony & Sharon Strungis / Green Valley, AZ
2011 Chevy Silverado LTZ HD3500 dually
2019 Montana FB3921
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06-17-2014, 03:52 AM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Ladson
Posts: 51
M.O.C. #13328
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Quote:
quote:Originally posted by astrungis
I am always surprised on just how different our experiences are with our Montanas. I, on one hand seem to be plagued with cabinet doors/drawers popping open, a spare tire loosening, dishes breaking yet others seem to have peaceful journeys with no ill-effects. Just to let you know, I travel at a speed of no more than 65 mph and don't aim for potholes. However, I have driven on my share of bad roads where my cavity fillings just about fall out. I travel back and forth across country every summer with a 1,500 mile winter trip every year. So I do use it extensively. Happy Traveling!
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I think one day you may find that the speed in which you take your corners is what causes your dishes to break and drawers to pop open. I'm no expert, but I learned quickly when I drove a beer delivery truck that if you didn't take your turns slow and steady(not jerking the wheel), you would be cleaning up broken beer that fell off carts/pallets. Just because you "can" take turns quickly, doesn't mean you should. But who knows, maybe I'm completely wrong.
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