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08-02-2020, 05:48 PM
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Alparetta
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M.O.C. #26805
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Advice needed-Dodge Ram/Montana HC
294RL Montana High Country- we are in the process of buying our first 5th wheel.
We sold our Toyota Crew Cab 4x4.
We are now looking at Dodge Ram 2500 for towing the high country.
Weight-11035
Carrying Capacity - 3265
Hitch Wt.- 2300
Any advice on this truck with the high country and what engine would you recommend? Many of the dealers I have spoken to are all over the board on what I need.
Is their another truck you would recommend.? Do not want a dually.
Thank you -
Jim
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08-02-2020, 06:21 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
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If you plan on pulling your new HC very far get a Diesel. Go check out all three trucks. You will never know which is the best truck for you until you really compare all three. Everybody wonts or needs something different. I’m not going to recommend a truck because they all are great trucks.
Lynwood
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08-02-2020, 06:22 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Carson City
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Good question. I suggest looking at the GVWR as listed in the door jam of the specific truck you want. Subtract the pin weight of the loaded trailer plus passengers, hitch, misc. junk that rides in the truck, and do the math. If the truck can legally carry the load, golden. Diesel is the muscle of choice for most. Your preference may be different and that is OK. Keep up the good research and get it right the first time.
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08-02-2020, 06:30 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Sidney,B.C.
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M.O.C. #23585
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimIrish7
294RL Montana High Country- we are in the process of buying our first 5th wheel.
We sold our Toyota Crew Cab 4x4.
We are now looking at Dodge Ram 2500 for towing the high country.
Weight-11035
Carrying Capacity - 3265
Hitch Wt.- 2300
Any advice on this truck with the high country and what engine would you recommend? Many of the dealers I have spoken to are all over the board on what I need.
Is their another truck you would recommend.? Do not want a dually.
Thank you -
Jim
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First recommendation is to use the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVRW) for the trailer; it's unlikely you will ever tow a totally empty trailer, except perhaps the trip to trade it in for another one. Second recommendation is to assume there will be an upgrade in your future, and it will be heavier than the one you have now. Last recommendation is to "buy up", that is purchase your tow vehicle that will handle a heavier unit than your current one. Diesel engines are known for their torque and longevity, but higher purchase cost, repair costs, and sometimes diesel fuel is costlier than gasoline. Diesels have better fuel efficiency, and there is a reason diesel engines are used in heavy commercial vehicles and motor coaches. Just my $ 0.02 CDN worth.
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08-02-2020, 10:13 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Chandler
Posts: 79
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Go for a 1 ton
I have a 2015 Ram 2500 diesel 4x4 short bed megacab with air suspension. My 2015 3100 RL has an empty pin weight of 2400#. When full loaded, my pin weight is 3100#. I got the later number by using a CAT scale. My max cargo capacity is ~2000# as per Dodge engineering. I've tried both Timberlen and Sumo Springs and they both work, but the truck is overloaded. I am planning on selling the 2500 and getting a 3500 in the next few months. A 1 ton typically has a cargo capacity of ~4000#. Note all of the trucks can pull 15,000#+. In my opinion, it is the cargo weight that you have to watch. Would encourage you to look at a 1 ton.
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08-03-2020, 03:27 AM
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M.O.C. #26805
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Great information- thank you for the responses it is appreciated.
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08-04-2020, 11:21 AM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Gardnerville
Posts: 1,252
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If you are worried about weight, do it right the first time.. 1 ton Dually... PERIOD...Get max tow package.. On the Ram it's the Aisin trans, auto level and 4:10 gears...
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08-04-2020, 12:13 PM
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3500 diesel single axil 4x4 and you be fine
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08-04-2020, 01:48 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Marion
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dfb
If you are worried about weight, do it right the first time.. 1 ton Dually... PERIOD...Get max tow package.. On the Ram it's the Aisin trans, auto level and 4:10 gears...
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I agree, duallies aren't hard to drive or park.
I have everything you mentioned except I have 3.73 gears, plenty of pulling power for what I do and I think it might save me a few bucks on diesel.
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2018 Ram cclb 4x4 6.7 cummins/aisin dually
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08-04-2020, 02:50 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
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I've had 1 2500 and 2 3500 duallies all with diesel. Do not go with gas. Period! Go bigger than you need is always a good rule of thumb. The only thing I would stay away from is the 4:10 gears. I doubt that you will be pulling max weight. 4:10 gears also kill your fuel mileage when not towing.
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50 Gallon Transfer Flow in bed tank w/ Trax 3
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08-04-2020, 08:06 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: 1000 oaks
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M.O.C. #19630
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AZMont
I have a 2015 Ram 2500 diesel 4x4 short bed megacab with air suspension. My 2015 3100 RL has an empty pin weight of 2400#. When full loaded, my pin weight is 3100#. I got the later number by using a CAT scale. My max cargo capacity is ~2000# as per Dodge engineering. I've tried both Timberlen and Sumo Springs and they both work, but the truck is overloaded. I am planning on selling the 2500 and getting a 3500 in the next few months. A 1 ton typically has a cargo capacity of ~4000#. Note all of the trucks can pull 15,000#+. In my opinion, it is the cargo weight that you have to watch. Would encourage you to look at a 1 ton.
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You should sell your truck to the OP as it is what he needs and you can move on.
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2022 GMC 2500HD Duramax/Alison
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08-09-2020, 02:10 PM
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Montana Fan
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Location: Indian Land
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We got a 2020 RAM 3500 diesel and love it. Can't even tell the 5th wheel is back there. Really goes up mountains.
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08-09-2020, 02:12 PM
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We purchased a new 294RL in April. Headed directly to the Cat Scale to weigh empty. Pin weight was 2340lbs. My 2500 Silverado, diesel, crew cab had a payload of 2450 lbs. In my opinion, not sufficient to safely pull this trailer.
Moved up to the Silverado 3500, diesel crew cab , SRW with 1200 more pounds of payload. You won’t regret the diesel.
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2019 Silverado 3500 Duramax, SRW, CC Reg box
B&W Companion slider hitch
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08-09-2020, 02:21 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Orlando
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dfb
If you are worried about weight, do it right the first time.. 1 ton Dually... PERIOD...Get max tow package.. On the Ram it's the Aisin trans, auto level and 4:10 gears...
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This is good advice unless you like upgrading trucks again later.
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08-09-2020, 02:40 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Gardnerville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob and Jeannette
This is good advice unless you like upgrading trucks again later.
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I can't see us upgrading the LONGHORN... But who knows.. The New Trucks are over 80k not... Could go with either the Ford or the GM...
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08-09-2020, 03:48 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Lake Stevens
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M.O.C. #19522
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimIrish7
294RL Montana High Country- we are in the process of buying our first 5th wheel.
We sold our Toyota Crew Cab 4x4.
We are now looking at Dodge Ram 2500 for towing the high country.
Weight-11035
Carrying Capacity - 3265
Hitch Wt.- 2300
Any advice on this truck with the high country and what engine would you recommend? Many of the dealers I have spoken to are all over the board on what I need.
Is their another truck you would recommend.? Do not want a dually.
Thank you -
Jim
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We bought a 32' Travel Trailer. It is also our first RV - we wanted something comfortable for the two of us, yet not go overboard on a budget of a 5th wheel or even a Class A or C, until we know if we'd like the lifestyle.
With that said, I also bought a Ram, but a 3500. My thinking was if we did enjoy our time out and decided to upgrade in the future, I wouldn't need to upgrade the truck. It is a SRW, not a dually - so I'm limited in not being able to get a huge heavy 5th wheel, but something nice enough to pull with the current setup. If we decide in the future to go full-time, I just nay trade the truck in for a dually. But thats down the road and not a concern at this time.
Good luck with your choice!
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08-09-2020, 04:12 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Cedar Park
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We tow a High Country with 3/4 ton. Diesel is a must.
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Jack & Rebecca
2015 Montana High Country
2006 Ford F250 SWB, 4X4, 6.0 diesel
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08-09-2020, 04:59 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Brandon
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Have a Ram 2500 with the cummins. love it. Pull 295rl high county montana. It has no problems on mts pull.
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08-09-2020, 05:20 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Simi Valley
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My two cents , you can never have a big enough truck ! Why are you apposed to a dually? If you get into a wind you will hardly feel it very stable side to side. SRA you will. I am all for safety, with a dually and get a flat you still have a good tire to support your load until you can safely get off the road. Just saying !!
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08-09-2020, 05:30 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Fargo
Posts: 213
M.O.C. #19032
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimIrish7
294RL Montana High Country- we are in the process of buying our first 5th wheel.
We sold our Toyota Crew Cab 4x4.
We are now looking at Dodge Ram 2500 for towing the high country.
Weight-11035
Carrying Capacity - 3265
Hitch Wt.- 2300
Any advice on this truck with the high country and what engine would you recommend? Many of the dealers I have spoken to are all over the board on what I need.
Is their another truck you would recommend.? Do not want a dually.
Thank you -
Jim
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My weights are very close to the same and I have pulled it with both my '98 Dodge/Cummins 2500 and now my '14 "Ram" / Cummins 2500. Both trucks were single rear wheel... pulls perfectly and never felt uncomfortable.
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