generator - Montana Owners Club

Ronald · 02-17-2005, 09:29 AM

Ann & Ron
2003 Dodge 2500
2004 Mountaineer RLS fiver

We would like to know if 2-2000 Honda generators hooked parallel would run a 15,000 BTU air conditioner? We have one Honda generator and are thinking of getting another. Thank You

Trailer Trash 2 · 02-17-2005, 09:34 AM

YES with Hondas attachment connector.

315RLS · 02-17-2005, 10:53 AM

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quote:We would like to know if 2-2000 Honda generators hooked parallel would run a 15,000 BTU air conditioner? We have one Honda generator and are thinking of getting another. Thank You

Yes. We've run the 15k AC with one if nothing else is on, but have and do run with 2.

ronstan · 02-17-2005, 02:31 PM

You can make your own connectors for the Honda's. A while back i posted the site on here. Try a search for it. I think I found it on rv net forum.pretty simple to do. Maybe somebody else will remember what the site was. Guess I should bookmark it.

Here is the site http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/...63&gid=848900&

stiles watson · 02-17-2005, 04:52 PM

With two of them, you can run just about the whole rig, at least as much as on you 50 amp shore line.

CRUZIN 2 · 02-28-2005, 06:39 AM

Ron I would like to know how Honda 2000 works on keeping up if you don't use the AC. How often do you need to use a generator, and if you think a person should buy a bigger one in the first place? We can use some input on what to do, I'd like to have one small one, but is this wise? ALL CONFUSED

jrgwdenner · 02-28-2005, 10:36 AM

We just added a Yamaha 3000 SEB to our package of goodies. We hope to do some dry camping on our upcoming trip to Alaska and then had it for boondocking in the states. We plan to keep it in the bed of the truck, secured with a chain and covered. Apparently we can run it from there and don't have to worry about moving it. We'll probably carry some small ramps just in case we need to move it as it is heavy - 150 pounds. Can't wait to try it out. Forgot to answer your question...yes, the two Hondas can run your air conditioner and do a good job of it. We just didn't want to fumble with two units, I guess. I think hubby just got his eye on that big blue powerhouse and that was it. We're close enough to hurricane country at home that it may help us here, too.

Montana_657 · 02-28-2005, 11:01 AM

Stiles is dreaming I'm afraid. 50 x 120 is 6000 watts. That's only one side of a 50 amp service. Each Honda puts out 2000 watts so two equal 4000 watts/// less then one side of a 50 amp service. A 50 amp service gives you 12,000 watts of power.

William H. Collier · 02-28-2005, 02:50 PM

The Honda 2000 provides 13.3 amps, two in parallell 26.6 enough to run everything in the Monty unless you have two air conditioners.
Bill

RADHAZJOE · 03-01-2005, 11:15 AM

I suggest that some of you who are using a single 2000 watt generator to run a 15000 BTU AC check the start up current reequired. Steady state current may be only 11 amps but start up current can be up to 3 times as much, or 33 amps. The AC may start but eventually it will overheat when starting and the starting capacitors or windings will fail. I would appreciate further discussion on this.

ronstan · 03-01-2005, 01:07 PM

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quote:Originally posted by CRUZIN 2

Ron I would like to know how Honda 2000 works on keeping up if you don't use the AC. How often do you need to use a generator, and if you think a person should buy a bigger one in the first place? We can use some input on what to do, I'd like to have one small one, but is this wise? ALL CONFUSED

We have only used ours a couple of times. We used it for one week in 2003 at the gnarv rally in Louisville Ky. I started it up in the morning to make coffee and then some friends of ours next to us were plugged into it. As soon as our coffee was done they started theirs. We did not spend all that much time in it during the day. We came back late one afternoon and it was still running. I had it set on the idle mode where when you don't use much it will just idle. It kept both trailer's batteries charged up. We did not need to use are a/c's as it was not that hot.

Montana_1882 · 03-01-2005, 01:32 PM

I bought a Yamaha EF3000iSEB last year so that I would only have to deal with one generator. It works fine, but I wish it was as small as the Hondas for storing purposes. I've been able to run my whole TT with this generator even using the AC. Two Hondas will have plenty of juice.

Does it hurt the generator to run it constantly for several days? I recently used mine for 3 days with no problems, but was hoping it wouldn't hurt anything.

Montana_657 · 03-01-2005, 01:40 PM

I have started the AC at low altitude... an ugly start.... It helps if you start the fan first, then the compressor. Have the Honda out of the eco mode running full power if you try this... also make sure the converter is off or that the batteries have been fully charged.

WHC can run his 5er on 26.6 amps... but not with 2 air conditioners, microwave oven, hair dryer and/or washer dryer engaged.

Add up the amps in the load (or watts) and go from there.

CRUZIN 2 · 03-01-2005, 03:59 PM

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quote:Originally posted by CRUZIN 2

Ron I would like to know how Honda 2000 works on keeping up if you don't use the AC. How often do you need to use a generator, and if you think a person should buy a bigger one in the first place? We can use some input on what to do, I'd like to have one small one, but is this wise? ALL CONFUSED

We have only used ours a couple of times. We used it for one week in 2003 at the gnarv rally in Louisville Ky. I started it up in the morning to make coffee and then some friends of ours next to us were plugged into it. As soon as our coffee was done they started theirs. We did not spend all that much time in it during the day. We came back late one afternoon and it was still running. I had it set on the idle mode where when you don't use much it will just idle. It kept both trailer's batteries charged up. We did not need to use are a/c's as it was not that hot.

Ron Thanks for the info. and what you have done with one 2k Honda. I don't think a person will us them that much to invest lots money. THANKS

Montana_2785 · 03-01-2005, 04:16 PM

Bubbanlacey,

I have the Honda EU3000. When I was generator shopping I also looked at the Yamaha. I was initially interested in the Yamaha due to the extra "battery boost". However, I found a local rental place that sells both the Yamaha and Honda units. I was able to take my old TT with it's ancient power sucking air conditioner (rated to pull 17.5 amps when running. It was 14 years old and hard telling what it really pulled in its old age...) and try both generators out with it. From those experiments, talking to the shop people and reading the manuals I found out the following:

1) Both the Yamaha and Honda were able to start it.

2) Both really had to try hard to start it, but would even running on the economy mode.

3) The Honda appeared to have the least problems.

4) The Honda has a 1 horsepower stronger engine than the Yamaha.

5) The Yamaha uses Honda's inverter module!!!

6) My personal opinion is that Yamaha uses the battery trick to equal the starting power of the Honda with the stronger engine. I note that Honda doesn't list the maximum starting power so I'm not positive this is the case, but they both ACT the same at maximum starting loads.

7) Presenting both generators with a load they couldn't really run (an air compressor) resulted in equal results (VERY Hard first start when air tank was empty and inverter dropout when attempting to restart against already compressed air.) This hard first start was much harder than it was for the air conditioner.

After all this, I decided on the Honda because:

A) Honda is the innovator in this type of generator technology.

B) Yamaha is a follower in the technology.

C) Given equal performance, I decided on the simpler, less gimicky unit.

In direct answer to the "...will 3 days continuous use..." question, both units just indicate to change the oil after every 50 hours of use. Both had more major maintenance to perform at each 100 and 300 hour invervals. Check your manual and maintain accordingly. I added the Yamaha engine hour meter to my genny to keep track.

Rock & Roll dude! Ya didn't buy it to sit around and rust

Eric

1putt · 03-01-2005, 05:08 PM

I've used my dual Honda 2000 in parallel quite a few times. Yes, they'll run 1 15K A/C. One of the best things I've discovered is they will run about 9 continuous hours on 1 tank (1.1 gal) under light loads ,ie. lights, TV, and an occasional microwave. However, I have not had the A/C on for a long time period.

Trailer Trash 2 · 03-01-2005, 06:36 PM

I dont quite understand the hook-up as in ronstan's thred, it shows the two plugs going into the one of each gen sets, the factory set up uses a diferent conector and the unit plugs into a diferent plug, if it was so simple to setup by just pluging in the plugs, why didn't honda do it that way it seems a lot simpler.
I prefer 2 gen sets being it only weighs 1/4 th the weight each of the honda 3000, and easier to store, I can carry 4000 watts, 2000 on each hand. and I have a 1000 watts in reserve.

TT2

jrgwdenner · 03-01-2005, 10:37 PM

Trailer Trash 2, a lot of people make their own parallel kit. Just make sure that using it doesn't void any warranty. I thought I'd read something about that. There are many discussions about this setup on RV Net.com.

Montana_2785 · 03-02-2005, 01:52 AM

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I prefer 2 gen sets being it only weighs 1/4 th the weight each of the honda 3000, and easier to store, I can carry 4000 watts, 2000 on each hand. and I have a 1000 watts in reserve.

TT2

When I got my genny, my primary concern (and still is) is to have power available when I do maintenance. Travelability was a secondary issue.

Eric

CRUZIN 2 · 03-02-2005, 05:53 PM

Has anyone

Have you heard of a generator by the name of KIPOR 2000 it is to be compared to the Honda 2000 all replies would be great. THANKS Originally posted by ronstan

You can make your own connectors for the Honda's. A while back i posted the site on here. Try a search for it. I think I found it on rv net forum.pretty simple to do. Maybe somebody else will remember what the site was. Guess I should bookmark it.

Here is the site http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/...63&gid=848900&
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