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Old 05-13-2021, 08:59 PM   #1
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2021 HC384BR Wiring Help

So I traced all the wires in the front battery compartment on my new 2021 HC384BR.
1. Breakaway 30amp...Light Blue
2. Heated tanks 30amp...White/Tan
3. Slides 30amp....Purple
4. Electric Leveling 30amp....Thicker Red
5. 12v to Pin Box 30amp...Black
6. Main +/- on a 50amp....+Red/-Black
7. ? This is where I'm stumped. There is a +/- direct to battery. Could this be the solar prep? +Red -Black/red

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Old 05-13-2021, 09:25 PM   #2
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#7 if it has a 30A inline fuse, yes.
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Old 05-13-2021, 09:32 PM   #3
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I was wondering about where these other 10 gauge wires go?
Red self resetting circuit breaker 12v, 30A, 10 gauge wiring.
Blue: trailer brakes
Tan: ?
Purple: ?
Red 1: ?
Red 2: ?
Red with inline 30A fuse: to solar MPPT
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Old 05-14-2021, 05:45 AM   #4
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#7 if it has a 30A inline fuse, yes.
Thanks! Mine is different then yours. I don't have an inline fuse. Mine is hooked to a standalone shortstop. I have 3/30 amp shortstops and one 50 amp. All of the other other wires I traced were stacked between 2 30 amps like your pic. The line hooked directly to the battery is on its own 30. So it appears they use a shortstop instead of an inline?
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Here is a couple of videos that show the solar wiring.
Hope this helps

Jaboni/Montana solar prep
"https://youtu.be/mhE9pSum_nA"

Jaboni/Montana solar install
"https://youtu.be/gn3BIWaSb4c"
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:07 AM   #6
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Here is a couple of videos that show the solar wiring.
Hope this helps

Jaboni/Montana solar prep
"https://youtu.be/mhE9pSum_nA"

Jaboni/Montana solar install
"https://youtu.be/gn3BIWaSb4c"
Thanks much. I'll pop that panel and look at the wire colors to verify. I also updated my wire colors hope it helps.
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:23 AM   #7
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That Red wire should run up forward inside front cargo bay door.. Look up high inside that front cargo area and you will see a Lippert controller.. That is for the level up system.. power for the control panel and sensors all comes form the fwd control module. power to it is ONE single RED wire that is fused at the other end connected to left terminal post on resettable 12 volt 50 amp breaker.
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Old 05-14-2021, 08:13 AM   #8
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That Red wire should run up forward inside front cargo bay door.. Look up high inside that front cargo area and you will see a Lippert controller.. That is for the level up system.. power for the control panel and sensors all comes form the fwd control module. power to it is ONE single RED wire that is fused at the other end connected to left terminal post on resettable 12 volt 50 amp breaker.
Thanks, I actually was able to trace the lippert ground control already. It's actually on another 30 amp shortstop. When I pulled it no power to control panel. The lone red on the battery is definitely not for the lippert.
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FYI....After more investigation its definitely the solar prep.
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Old 05-15-2021, 07:39 AM   #10
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So to clarify....the +/- hooked directly to the battery was solar prep. I traced the wires back to a bundle behind the front storage wall. They are terminated unused there. Not smart in my opinion to have 12v power hooked up and unused.
My parts should be here today and tomorrow. I will be using a Blue Sea circuit breaker block and resettable circuit breakers moving all loads to their own dedicated 30amp breakers. Will use a 50 amp Blue Sea surface mount breaker for the main battery.
I also spoke with Lippert about the way they wired the electric leveling. In their diagrams it shows the jacks direct wired with a 50 amp breaker. For liability they couldn't advise stating the coach builder is responsible. The takeaway was with electric so long as there is a 50 amp downstream it meets requirements. He said in case of a short or overload it would most likely take out the fuses on the board first anyway.
My plan will be like my past rigs. Dual 6v feeds circuit breaker block through 50 amp breaker with all respective loads on their own dedicated breaker and LABELED! Battery ground to trailer frame then to circuit breaker block and all grounds on their own terminal not stacked like spaghetti.
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