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06-23-2020, 03:10 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Coldstream
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3950BR - Possible consideration
Thank you for including me in your group! We have just purchased an RV lot and are looking at the 3950BR model to place on our lot permanently. We have two choices, a 2017 or 2018. We particularly love this model because of the second bedroom/office and loft. We have grandkids who will be spending time with us in the summer. Both used RVs will come without warranty and a price tag of 73k before 12% tax, so we want to make sure there are no known issues with this model or if a particular year is better than the other. The 2018 is actually cheaper, by $3k, and we will be negotiating....any suggestions on a suggested price, Canadian funds
Our winters can be cold -25, with lots of snow, and we will not be using it from Oct-Apr, and it will be winterized. We plan on using a cover to protect it.
Any feedback from the group? We welcome all comments and suggestions about parking it permanently on a seasonal lot. Thank you😊
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06-23-2020, 03:37 PM
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Site Team
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I see you are in Canada but still, $73K for a 3 or 4 year old RV seems excessive. You can buy a new one here in the states for less than that.
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06-23-2020, 04:02 PM
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Site Team
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Location: Wilsey
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I agree. We have been looking for a second rig recently and those prices are way higher than we've been seeing and RV's are selling really well here. It probably depends on when they were built, but the 2017's had issues with the return air ducts collapsing. Fairly easy fix, but sometime later Keystone went to plastic ducts to fix that issue so the 2018 might not have the problem.
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06-23-2020, 06:12 PM
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New Member
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M.O.C. #26527
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Unfortunately, we lose 32% exchange rate, and they are marked at this price because their cost to buy in the US is 32%. So in the US, the price would be approx $55k. Is that still excessive?
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06-23-2020, 04:13 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Salem
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You should be able to get 30% off of a new unit. I agree the price seams a little excessive, but it’s Canadian dollars.
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06-23-2020, 06:08 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Bastrop
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The '18s had AC duct issues also
What does a new one in Canada Cost?
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06-23-2020, 06:16 PM
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New Member
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A 2021 Montana is $99,950��
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06-23-2020, 06:19 PM
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Montana Master
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06-23-2020, 06:20 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Coldstream
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M.O.C. #26527
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So probably in line based on our exchange rate. Still going to go in with a lower offer, especially considering the age.
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06-23-2020, 08:20 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
Location: new caney
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Just remember, no rv or any thing recreational has good resale value. You are in the driver's seat. I would look at the new rv's and see what kind of a deal i could get before i commit to a used one. Remember you don't have a warranty with the used one and they are very expensive to repair at a dealer. If you are financing you will get a better rate on a new than used rv. There are some good deals on new and used out there but this seems like an rv i could pass up unless they would take several thousand dollars off the price. Good luck.
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06-24-2020, 09:11 AM
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New Member
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Yes, buying used is risky. Thank you for the feedback. We may just save a little longer and buy new. I do love the Keystone Montana’s though. The new 2021 is $110k here in Canada! Will keep you posted
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06-24-2020, 03:07 PM
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Seasoned Camper
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Port Orchard
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You can also buy insurance for a used unit to help with replacement cost of any major appliances or such.
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06-24-2020, 12:01 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Edgerton
Posts: 218
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Buying new is risky too. I look at the warranty as if it’s toilet paper. Good luck getting any warranty service after delivery. It generally takes more time, more fuel & causes me more aggravation to take it to the dealer than it does to just fix the darned thing myself.
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06-24-2020, 12:27 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: May 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom N OH
Buying new is risky too. I look at the warranty as if it’s toilet paper. Good luck getting any warranty service after delivery. It generally takes more time, more fuel & causes me more aggravation to take it to the dealer than it does to just fix the darned thing myself.
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It has certainly made me more into a DYU than i expected to be at this stage in my life. Just a 30 minute job at the dealer can turn into a 3 week stay.
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06-24-2020, 12:57 PM
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Montana Master
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Austin
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Most comments here would not be model specific - but you can find lots of info on systems. You should do research about the common systems for those models.
- the hydraulic slides on the big living room slides
- the hydraulic level up system
- does it have an 80 amp circuit breaker on the hydraulic system in the front compartment
- how old are the batteries? How many batteries?
- possible schwintek or cable slide for the bedroom and mid-body slide (I don't know what that model had)
- the thermostats and the AC and furnace units
- the water heater
- what stove do they have?
- the suspension and tires (that is a big topic!)
- the fridge...residential or RV gas/electric
- read up on a subject called "frame flex" and it will help you know what to look for
- do you know what the build date is for either of those? My 2018 was built mid-November 2017 and it has the upgraded plastic ducts.
- these are just a few suggestions. My 2018 model has had a few small issues but I fixed them all myself. It may fall apart tomorrow - but so far so good!
I am not one who would encourage you to forgo the used unit and save to buy a new unit. Check the used units out carefully and then decide.
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06-24-2020, 02:29 PM
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New Member
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M.O.C. #26527
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I also have a very talented son-in-law who is a welder, and restores cars, bikes, and has done full renovations. I am sure between him and my husband, they could pretty much fix most things.
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07-01-2020, 05:57 PM
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Montana Fan
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Austin
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3-4 year old RVs sell for about 50% of their new sale price. I would think $40-45k max. $78k is most likely what that model sold for NEW.
Keep looking. For $78k you can get a nice manufactured home or park model (New) with 2x-3x the space if your not planning on being mobile.
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07-01-2020, 08:09 PM
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Site Team
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Concur with McRod. Why buy something mobile if you are not going to move it?
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