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Old 09-29-2016, 03:58 PM   #1
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Sailun as OEM tires

Took the factory tour at the ralley and we noticed that all the new Montana's are coming with Sailun tires standard. 614's are still an option, but all the rigs on the floor had Sailuns.
 
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Glad to see that they are putting good tires on the new rigs. I first saw the Sailuns on SOB that came that way from the factory while we were visiting a RV show at Phoenix Stadium last year.

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Now that is good news but why would you "upgrade to the g614's when the Sailun's (if the are the G rated Sailun's) are just as good??? I guess maybe some of the old timers still do not trust them OR they want to pay for a American made only tire I am guessing
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Now that is good news but why would you "upgrade to the g614's when the Sailun's (if the are the G rated Sailun's) are just as good??? I guess maybe some of the old timers still do not trust them OR they want to pay for a American made only tire I am guessing
I sort of prefer that they never understood why we insisted on 614,s instead of Marathons and still don't
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Wow, what an improvement.
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Now that is good news but why would you "upgrade to the g614's when the Sailun's (if the are the G rated Sailun's) are just as good??? I guess maybe some of the old timers still do not trust them OR they want to pay for a American made only tire I am guessing
Perhaps it is due to the fact that Goodyear has historically paid for damage to the rig in the event of tire failure and to date I have read no reports of the manufacturer of Sailuns's doing the same. I am due for replacement in a couple of years, and have no doubts as to who the manufacturer of the replacement tires will be.
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Great news! I have been impressed with Goodyear's willingness to compensate for damage from blowouts, but I haven't seen any real documented Sailun failures. I think by now that Sailun has a pretty well established reputation.
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We'll really find out as more members get them on new rigs.
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As for no reports as to Sailun paying for damage caused by blowouts compared to Goodyear when I was doing research was I could not find any reported blowouts with trailers. I did find one reported blowout on a dually back when the tires were rated for SRW only. They were not rated for dually applications. I have the Sailuns and feel that they make a great product. Time will give us a clearer picture.

I really want tires that don't blowout. I do realize road hazards can still cause blowouts no matter how good the tires are.


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As for no reports as to Sailun paying for damage caused by blowouts compared to Goodyear when I was doing research was I could not find any reported blowouts with trailers. I did find one reported blowout on a dually back when the tires were rated for SRW only. They were not rated for dually applications. I have the Sailuns and feel that they make a great product. Time will give us a clearer picture.

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So are they ST or LT? Very confusing when reading the literature. Some info stays they can be used on trucks also.
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Old 10-01-2016, 03:23 PM   #13
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My tires state "For Trailer Use Only ". They do have a rating of 4080 Single wheel and somewhere around 3600/3700 in Dual Wheel configuration. Sorry I can't tell you any more about them Lenny except they weighed as much or more than my Trail King tires and rims combined. 7K axles with 8160 lb tire capacity gives me a better feeling than the cheap one they replaced. Also are rated fo 75 mph if I remember correctly like the Goodyear.

I assume these were made to compete against the Goodyear tires for heavier trailers.

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Tredit (Montana's vendor for tires), stated they are rated trailer only. The reason, is China must compete fairly in LT tires, but can dump trailer tires. Hence, Sailun's are a classified trailer tires so they can sell at cheaper than their cost to produce. That is per Tredit. Please don't shoot the messenger.
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I was planning on using the Sailun on the trailer. I was looking at the ST235/85R/16 which are an inch taller than the ST235/80R/16 as I could use some extra height. Has anyone used the ST235/85R/16 on their trailer? Any clearance issues?
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As for no reports as to Sailun paying for damage caused by blowouts compared to Goodyear when I was doing research was I could not find any reported blowouts with trailers. I did find one reported blowout on a dually back when the tires were rated for SRW only. They were not rated for dually applications. I have the Sailuns and feel that they make a great product. Time will give us a clearer picture.

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IMO the Sailuns haven already given us a clear picture, how many years now with Sailuns ? Enough where they should be aging out, and needing replaced, and still no reports of issues.

Periodically we still read about the G614's having a blowout, granted less then a few years ago, but still happening.

I am running on six year old G614's . They will be replaced next spring with the Sailuns.

I'll replace a G614 any day with a tire I don't have to pay for a warranty on that may create damage ,and lost time.
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I was planning on using the Sailun on the trailer. I was looking at the ST235/85R/16 which are an inch taller than the ST235/80R/16 as I could use some extra height. Has anyone used the ST235/85R/16 on their trailer? Any clearance issues?

I'm running the G614's ST235/85/16, with no clearance issues on my 2008 3400 RL. I would think they would be the same height as the Sailuns. At one point the Sailun 85's were the only option ,but now they offer both the 80 ,and 85.
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On the factory tour I looked closely at the Sailun tires and they were load range "G" with steel belts in the sidewall just like the Goodyears. By the time my G614s are worn out, there should be a lot of data on the Sailun tires since they are now standard on all Montana's.
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Two different places that I found the Sailuns for sale. One place the tire size was one inch bigger and just a hair cheaper. The other place had exactly the same size as what came on the rig. I had better customer service with the second dealer and ended up with the exact same size. In my opinion if you need a little bit bigger tire go with the next size up. Every one that had already put the bigger size tires on their rig let me know that they have had no problems.

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I'm stuck with 80 psi tires no matter what. My rims are only rated for that. Even if I upgraded to the Goodyear. I can still only inflate to 80 psi Why go for an exagerated 200 psi tire if the support system can not handle it.
Goodyear has had a lot of years and nascar support. Do they necessarily make a better tire? I seen one post about them honoring their warranty.
Is that a good reputation. I have run mixed branded tires on my trailer over the years.
I replace them when I think they need to be replaced.
I have had blowouts these tires are LT replacements that came with the montana.
The Saluns are newer Last 10 years or so when I first discovered them.
I have not heard anything bad or good. So with that information.

It makes sense to write a complaint when you are angry. Most people that are happy with their purchase are 99% less likely to chime in on the good.

For what it is worth. Tires on your truck will outlast the camper tires even if they are both LT branded. Why? Mostly due to scuffing. sidewall separation in tight turns and overloading. Look at the construction, excavator backhoe, hauler trailers. They never seem to have as many tire problems like we do.
Can you imagine an over the road trucker having problems with one brand of tire?
I could pretty much guarantee within one year the sales wound plumet due to bad word of mouth.

We have no input that is worth listening to, in comparison to the trucking industry.
Look at how many are running single wides vs dually;s on the axles.
It saves fuel and is more efficient negating the effects of a blow out.

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