SRW vs. DRW - Page 3 - Montana Owners Club

BB_TX · 09-17-2015, 04:04 PM

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quote:Originally posted by 1retired06

............. For those who prefer SRW, great, but to claim the same handling as a DRW is a stretch. ..........

I don't remember any SRW owners claim their SRW had the same handling as a DRW. What I and others have said is that our SRWs do not have any stability issues in cross winds or passing trucks. Whereas some (certainly not all) DRW owners have made statements implying towing with an SRW you will be unstable. Just passing our real experiences. Maybe some SRW/trailer combos are just more stable than other similar SRW/trailer combos. Maybe some people are more sensitive to, or more bothered by, movement.

As said before, as long as the weights are right then it is all a very personal choice.

Dam Worker · 09-17-2015, 04:52 PM

I think that this topic is getting a little bit testy. For all the dually owners claiming how great their dually is I can understand the pin weight and safety issues. But on the other hand if that is your sole desire then maybe you should have stepped up to a medium duty truck that is way better than a one ton pickup. If the SRW guys are all for driving convenience and the truck still meets the required payloads than that is all you can ask out of them if that is what they want. There are always better tow vehicles available than what we are willing to spend for them or what we want to sacrifice in convenience or handling. I think the best suggestions have been covered with trying to make sure that the TV is capable of safely towing the RV that you will be towing. Remember that even if the TV is capable of towing the RV under normal circumstances that is not the same as what some drivers actually put the vehicles through. A good example is steep mountain passes where the big trucks are instructed to go a certain MPH for X amount of axles and weight per axle. I almost always smell burnt brake pad lining and usually see a truck on the side of the road trying to cool the brakes because they ignored what their rig was capable of safely towing for the road conditions.

Remember these are so called professional drivers.

Mostly we buy what we like and feel will tow our fifth-wheels from point A to point B.

Tom Marty

RKassl · 09-17-2015, 05:25 PM

I am very happy with my SRW 3500 Duramax Allison pulling my new 2015 3440RL. So you DRW people don't tell me how bad my setup is, just enjoy what you have and let it go.

bigskyjimmy · 09-17-2015, 06:11 PM

I have a DRW Duramax But there is nothing wrong with a 2011 SRW 3500 Duramax towing a newer Monty you are good to go my man

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quote:Originally posted by RKassl

I am very happy with my SRW 3500 Duramax Allison pulling my new 2015 3440RL. So you DRW people don't tell me how bad my setup is, just enjoy what you have and let it go.

sambam · 09-17-2015, 08:32 PM

I've noticed that, except for Bill, and maybe Rich, anyone who has towed with both, prefers the dually. I've had both, as have others. There IS more stability, plain and simple. It doesn't mean a SRW isn't stable. If it's overkill for the OP to buy a DRW, then he should get a SRW. I think he just wanted to know what he NEEDS. The scale will tell all. I was the first to respond to this post and said to stay tuned. I knew what was coming.......

richfaa · 09-18-2015, 03:39 AM

I don't care about all that other stuff the truck is to pull a heavy Montana(within spec's) I don't know about stability we really did not notice any difference but a wider foot print has to be more stable. IMO stability is not a big issue.

To me it is simple. If the truck is within spec's you are good. .The spec most in question is pin weight. It is easy to do the numbers as I indicated. Simple addition and subtraction is all that is needed.

We did not want the Dually the numbers told us we needed the dually . If I were to buy another truck and the numbers worked out we would have a SWD.

andylparish · 09-18-2015, 04:05 AM

Trucks, they are a changing, just saw a Ford F-150 commercial touting 3300 lb payload and 12200 lb towing. Not saying it will pull a heavy Montana, but ithat is a lot of towing for a half ton truck.

DarMar · 09-18-2015, 04:58 AM

Remember folks the OP has a 3790 model with one of the heaviest pin weights next to our 3610. The washer/dryer prep is also in the front closet. If the OP was to install such now or down the road they could have the heaviest pin weight of the Montana lineup.

For the OP I think this thread has been of great value information wise and how they decide to go legal or not, dually or not, they have been well informed to make a decision from here.

Fire5er · 09-18-2015, 05:28 AM

Funny how when you relate your story (as asked for by the OP) how others get defensive. Do what you want, driver what you want, tow what you want...the OP said, "looking for comments from those that have driven both and can give me a comparison or their thoughts on which would be best, in their opinion." I gave my opinion and by no means was I pointing any fingers, calling anyone out for being unsafe, or saying your SRW is not as stable as my DRW. I have driven large fire apparatus for 37 years and have driven heavy duty pick-up truck for 45 years both SRW and DRW. With experience I can recognize when the vehicle I am driving is over loaded. So for me and my family I will continue to drive my DRW and be happy, just like I hope those of you that have SRW truck do.

1retired06 · 09-18-2015, 08:21 AM

Well said Fire5er

TLightning · 09-18-2015, 02:03 PM

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quote:Originally posted by andylparish

Trucks, they are a changing, just saw a Ford F-150 commercial touting 3300 lb payload and 12200 lb towing. Not saying it will pull a heavy Montana, but ithat is a lot of towing for a half ton truck.

I find that real hard to believe...3300 cargo capacity. One thing for sure, they better issue ear plugs with that gasser, 'cause it's going to be screaming bloody murder with those weights.

mlh · 09-18-2015, 02:31 PM

That's with their 3.5 Ecoboost engine. Max torque is at 2500 RPMs and has 90% of that all the way up to 4500 RPMs. It has 360 HP and 410 TQ and that's with 89 octane. With high test it has even more power and that is what is recommend when pulling a heavy load. In other words it pulls like a diesel did a few years ago. What gives it it's 3300 pound payload is it's 700 pounds lighter than last years model. I have their 2.7 Ecoboost and according to Motor Trend it will out pull Chevys 5.3 and Rams 4L Ecodiesel. My 2.7 with the standard tow package is rated to tow 7600 pounds.
Would I tow 7600 pounds with it, not a chance.
Some of these new one ton diesels are dated to tow over 20,000 pounds. If you believe that is safe you need to go read the SAE J2807 tow specs.
Lynwood

richfaa · 09-19-2015, 03:03 AM

It is true with the Ford 1/2 ton Ecoboost. One of the members of our local camping group was pulling a Cougar 5th wheel GVW 10K with one. first time I saw it I thought "What the" then I checked all the numbers and he was within specs. He is a low end user and that set up is perfect for him.

MAMalody · 09-19-2015, 08:13 PM

Thanks for all the input. Good stuff to chew on. I am leaning towards a DWR, but still working in through. If I go the DRW route, it may push me into a one year older truck. I had hoped to get a 2013 so I could cash it out. Hmmm.

bigskyjimmy · 09-19-2015, 09:09 PM

Heck my man I have a 2007 3500 Duramax Dually it does great.a 2013 of ANY brand and you are GOLDEN

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quote:Originally posted by MAMalody

Thanks for all the input. Good stuff to chew on. I am leaning towards a DWR, but still working in through. If I go the DRW route, it may push me into a one year older truck. I had hoped to get a 2013 so I could cash it out. Hmmm.